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In English would be helpful.

there are Miserable people and there are happy outgoing people

 

thats a bad mix, can easily stir up crap :lol:

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edit: i get it now, too much :beer:

 

 

Kool and the Gang.

 

Moi aussi.

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there are happy outgoing people

 

 

I'll give you tips if you like.

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Careful more like.

 

You're on my 'ignore list'

and thats your choice.

 

:lol: volt :roller:

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As a moderator, I have to take alot of things into consideration before I take action. First, it is my experience that alot of the threads that get started are not intentionally baiting or trolling, but at some point get turned into that by either an unsuspecting member or someone who purposely tries to steer the thread in a baiting or trolling fashion. Also, threads which get started and appear to be baiting or trolling, aren't actually breaking any forum rules unless you look at it from a specific point of view. And who's to say that the point of view you've elected to view it isn't what the original poster had in mind to begin with? If you remove the thread, thinking it was a deliberate attempt to troll or bait, then you get called a nazi for deleting the thread. If you don't delete it, you get accused of playing favorites, or frowned on for not doing your job.

 

So in alot of instances, our hands are tied unless we allow personal feelings to direct our actions. But we can't do that. So we sit around, knowing that a rule is going to get broken, but reduced to waiting for it to actually occur.

Great post kd5. :)

 

I snippet from a thread I dug up from a couple of years ago when the Pit was still a little pup:

 

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So, You Want To Be A Moderator

 

Online technical support forums are becoming more numerous and

popular everyday. Providing assistance, in most cases free, for

any number of computer and internet issues. All too often,

software/hardware developers leave users in vacuum because of

poor support, paid support or simply a failure to provide proper

instructions. Online forums fill this vacuum with a variety of

technical personnel, interested parties and experienced users.

 

All providing help just for the sake of helping. Some forums are

small in membership, while are others are massive with membership

reaching into the hundreds of thousands. Here is where the staff

of an online forum comes in. Generally speaking, forums will have

an administrator or two and many moderators. It is the job of the

moderators to keep forums running smoothly.

 

What does a moderator do?

 

Moderators are responsible for maintaining order, providing

assistance to new members in how the forum works, enforcing the

Acceptable Use Policy (AUP) of the website, watch posts and

threads for erroneous or potentially dangerous instructions, and

finally...answer the technical questions themselves.

 

This is a rough outline of the duties, but there are other

functions performed as well. Simply welcoming a new member or

directing help in their direction, from other members, is

involved. In cases where someone has posted a question in a forum

where it does not belong, it is the job of the moderators to

properly move that question to the correct forum.

 

A common error that new forum members will make, is to post a

question several times in the same forum, or in many others. When

this occurs, the moderators will merge all threads and responses,

so that all the information is in one place. A moderator is part

tech, part police officer, and part organizer.

 

Moderators are always on the watch for illegal content. For the

most part...this means pirated software questions. The majority

of technical support forums do not allow such discussions. This

is for good reason, too. The website owner could be held legally

liable if their website is used to propagate information

regarding the use of this pirated software. Moderators have a

difficult job, sometimes, when determining the nature of a

question.

 

If the question is a forthright query where the questioner

actually admits the software is illegal, then it is a simple case

for moderators to make a decision and they will close the topic.

 

A more difficult decision is when someone poses a question,

without an admission, but it appears to be somewhat dubious. When

a moderator is presented with a quandary such as this and isn't

sure how to proceed, they will usually rely on their best source

of input...the other moderators of the site. Moderator forums,

which are hidden from the general public, are almost always ripe

with discussions concerning pirate software questions that have

been posted. The moderators will discuss the question and a

decision is arrived upon as to whether the topic can proceed.

 

The forum staff act as a team. They are the first line of defense

against the numerous troublemakers, sometimes called "trolls",

who peruse forums looking to stir up controversy and argument.

Their intent is to disrupt the normal operations of the forum.

These trolls can quickly turn a forum into a battleground if not

dealt with promptly and decisively. The moderating team

frequently discusses major actions to be taken, such as banning a

member for improper conduct.

 

Again, all forums differ slightly and some administrators make

all the decisions. However in large forums with thousands of

members, administrators will rely on the judgement of the

moderators most of the time. The broad background of the

moderators is key.

 

The internet is international and forums reflect this. It becomes

extremely important when dealing with what is considered "proper"

content. Something that is proper in one nation, may not be in

another. Out of genuine ignorance, this leads to confusion.

Maintaining an atmosphere of comfort for all, is the overriding

concern. Attention is always paid to the fact that children, as

well as adults, will visit the forum. Caution is usually the

primary course of action when dealing with international issues

and language.

 

It is always desirable to have members feeling comfortable and

and free to post. However, some members will just refuse to abide

by the rules of the road. Moderators try to be both friendly and

strict when dealing with unruly members. This balancing act is

difficult. It takes a certain amount of tact to tell someone, in

the same breath, that their input is welcome, but if they don't

stop breaking the rules... they are gone.

 

Fortunately, the vast majority of members will step back and

follow the rules. Naturally, there are those that just want to

keep pushing. These extreme cases lead to discussions in the

moderator forum on a course of action. People who refuse to

follow rules are then subject to disciplinary messages, email and

actions, including be banned from the site. Banning a member is

never taken lightly.

 

How do I become a moderator?

 

The basic requirements at most forums is a good knowledge of

computers or the internet. This is mainly so that moderators can

review advice being given by others to assure that it is accurate

and not dangerous. At small forums, this knowledge is primarily

to provide direct support to members.

 

Moderators are chosen from amongst the members after they have

shown a couple qualities that existing moderators and

administrators look for.

 

First, they have shown a good understanding of the technical

subjects being discussed. Second, they have also shown that they

have the temperament for the job. They need to be patient,

friendly, understanding and have a want to help out those who are

not as fortunate to have experience or knowledge. In addition to

these traits there is the time factor. A moderator must be

willing to donate their time in sufficient quantity to police the

forums.

 

Generally, this means logging in to forum nearly everyday...even

if it is just for a short time. Anyone wishing to become a

moderator should not ask to be given the spot. This rarely works.

It is better to continue helping people, obeying the rules, and

spending time at the forums. One will get noticed by the staff

and when a need arises for a new moderator, the name will come

up.

 

Being a moderator can be a rewarding experience in both knowledge

and fun, but it shouldn't be taken lightly. There are

responsibilities involved. The site owner/administrator is

trusting the moderators to keep the site running smoothly.

 

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I think this is very appropriate, mods don't have the easiest job in the world. :)

 

with regards

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You worry too much rock ... not much gets past the mods here and in this case something has been done. :)

Bear's been de-modded...

 

with regards

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Bear's been de-modded...

 

with regards

Yeah, was about to post the same thing?

 

Was it because of this name mixup, or because of this troll thing, or because of what AX just told us, or something different (Like did he step down)?

 

Never had a bone to pick with you bear. :mrsgreen:

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Bear's been de-modded...

 

with regards

Yes, for something that other mods/admin are guilty of doing. :mrsgreen: Those who are condeming Bear to death also know other mods/admin ahve shared Ips. Sad that its OK for some and not the others.

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Yes, for something that other mods/admin are guilty of doing. :mrsgreen: Those who are condeming Bear to death also know other mods/admin ahve shared Ips. Sad that its OK for some and not the others.

Just from what I have seen it wasn't just the IP exchange that sunk the boat...

 

 

It was much deeper than that.

 

 

And no I'm not going into any details.

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Other mods and administrators have broken the rules, and they are still mods and administrators.... and justice for all..... :blink:

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Well, maybe if someone would care to share the info Donna & Lindalou are alluding to, we could straighten a few things out. But until somebody says something, nothing's gonna change.

 

And I thought this thread was about people who come here for the sole purpose of being disruptive? -kd5-

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kd,

 

There was a king once who had all the riches the earth could provide but still he wasn't satisfied. He called upon his wise men and demanded, "Give me something that will make me happy when I'm sad and sad when I'm happy." They returned with a ring engraved with the following message: This too shall pass.

 

I

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This too shall pass

 

 

Perhaps it will, but it sure is taking its good old time (and leaving a wake of destruction in its path)... :blank: -kd5-

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Perhaps it will, but it sure is taking its good old time (and leaving a wake of destruction in its path)... :blank: -kd5-

amen. like a slow moving tornado.

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but it sure is taking its good old time

The advantage of being born naked: We are burdened only with time....

 

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i think forums are targeted by persons the deliberatly become disruptive,

if they get banned they will find other places to release there steam, involving taking things out on others to make there selves feel better because something went wrong in there lives they want to bring others down with them :rolleyes:

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think forums are targeted by persons the deliberatly become disruptive,

if they get banned they will find other places to release there steam, involving taking things out on others to make there selves feel better because something went wrong in there lives they want to bring others down with them

A daft notion. Most of those people you think are targeting you -- and it is you, isn't it -- can barely tie their own shoelaces. Nobody's out to get you, except maybe your mom, and there's no escaping her.

 

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my point exactly, they have no fear to what could happen, confrentataion face to face is a whole other story, there is no challenge then, some tend to feel bigger than what they really are because its digital, i tend to become disruptive in person and wouldnt waste my time doing it digital, some just go the other way around for what ever reason :whistling::mrgreen:

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