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It's nice over there and they are so socialist. They should enjoy helping their fellow man...no?

 

Helping fellow man isn't just a socialist ideal, it is an ideal held by many civilized nations that are not socialist also. Even the least socialist nation in the world, the USA, likes to help their fellow man once in a while... even if half the population doesn't.

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I never said it was exlusive to those nations just relevant in them. Spanish is practically a second language in the United States, due to a massive migration to the United States. Since the Spanish speaking population in the United States is so large I just thought it would be fitting to use them as an example.

Hate to break it to you, but we were actually here before the English speakers.
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Helping fellow man isn't just a socialist ideal, it is an ideal held by many civilized nations that are not socialist also. Even the least socialist nation in the world, the USA, likes to help their fellow man once in a while... even if half the population doesn't.

Did I say it was an ideal of socialism?

 

 

Obviously it is not.

 

 

 

Obviously it is an ideal of the US though. Once in a while? Well...call it once in a while if you like but that is a sad statement considering we do it more than any other.

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Hate to break it to you, but we were actually here before the English speakers.

forgot all about the ol' conquistadors...

 

but guess who was here before them... :shifty:

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forgot all about the ol' conquistadors...

 

but guess who was here before them... :shifty:

:P

 

I guess Aliens will always be a problem all over the World?

 

Whilst we can vent our Feelings, sometimes quite heated, just always remember one thing? What made them Aliens?

 

Sometimes I often wonder what would have happened if America had accepted that Shipload of Jews, when Mr. Hitler, started to do his thing?

 

There are so many other cases like this.

 

I guess we all should just learn to be neighborly to people that have major problems?

 

No Offense!

 

:oreo::oreo: :beer: :beer:

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forgot all about the ol' conquistadors...

 

but guess who was here before them... :shifty:

Seems like there have been other "mass migrations" of greater significance.

 

Perhaps we should deport Europeans and enforce the languages of Native Americans?

 

It's all self serving...there is no way to deny that...it has nothing to do with what is right or wrong. As I have said many times...we want to follow Mill, but we Kant.

 

 

South America isn't the wasteland that some want to make it out to be, and the United States isn't the great salvation of all other nations that some want to pretend. In addition to that, there is a serious problem in many parts of South America with Gringo Banditos....real bad guys....don't act like South America does not have problems because of the US.

 

 

I think the implication that everybody in South America wants to come to the US is really degrading and inaccurate. The statement that my family is "blessed" because the are fine and happy where they are is ridiculous. They live, work, and raise their families in modern Western style just like the rest of us and that is normal where they are.

 

I think the stereotypes have been well stated, and I think the hateful views of the nations, cultures, and people of South America have been clear as well.

 

I am all for keeping the borders tight and enforcing immigration laws. But I cannot equate that with hate, that is simply another matter, and I think it is a sad statement and a sign that efforts will ultimately fail. I simply don't believe that social management based on hate can succeed ultimately, but we shall see.

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I was referring to the wooly mammoth... :blink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:rofl3:

Yeah....but they ain't here no more......so we can't very well put them in charge....can we? :shrug:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wooly mammoth indeed.....reminds me of this girl I knew........ :blank:

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You know Sue?  :blink:

:P

 

God, Mate, EVERYBODY knows Sue!

 

Got so many AKA's as well

 

Couple from Aussieland.

 

Airport, SurfBoard, Town Bike.

 

from your way? Doorknob?

 

:beer: :beer:

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I simply don't believe that social management based on hate can succeed ultimately, but we shall see.

 

where did you get that from?

 

Anyway, my gf's father goes to Brazil often and it seems a pretty modern place. Of course it has its problems as do every other country.

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where did you get that from?

 

Anyway, my gf's father goes to Brazil often and it seems a pretty modern place. Of course it has its problems as do every other country.

Where do I get it from? It is my belief. Where does it come from? My general observations and experience. It is a belief...hence it has no proof etc. I simply believe that hate based social management is doomed to fail. That's all.

 

 

 

Yes...Brazil is quite modern. But it seems that many have the perception that the Latin American world is something...less.....

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Where do I get it from? It is my belief. Where does it come from? My general observations and experience. It is a belief...hence it has no proof etc. I simply believe that hate based social management is doomed to fail. That's all.

 

 

 

Yes...Brazil is quite modern. But it seems that many have the perception that the Latin American world is something...less.....

:P

 

Guess I can relate to that.

 

Aussies can be different too, just depends on how you look at them?

 

:beer: :beer:

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Where do I get it from? It is my belief. Where does it come from? My general observations and experience. It is a belief...hence it has no proof etc. I simply believe that hate based social management is doomed to fail. That's all.

 

 

 

 

I thought you got it from this thread somewhere, I would agree with your belief
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Obviously it is an ideal of the US though. Once in a while? Well...call it once in a while if you like but that is a sad statement considering we do it more than any other.

 

Thats an opinion, not a fact!

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Thats an opinion, not a fact!

Opinions are allowed here last I checked?? facts can be rigged to your own personal likeing..our feds do it all the time...
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Opinion or not, I would say it id a darn sight closer to the truth than "once in a while".

 

the USA, likes to help their fellow man once in a while...

EDIT: Besides....I think helping fellow man is in keeping with basic American values. It is the People who determine our values. If we put the question to a referendum I think it would be overwhelmingly agreed upon by Americans. More than that, actions speak louder than words and I think the record of the US speaks for itself on this matter.

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Opinion or not, I would say it id a darn sight closer to the truth than "once in a while".

 

 

 

EDIT:  Besides....I think helping fellow man is in keeping with basic American values.  It is the People who determine our values.  If we put the question to a referendum I think it would be overwhelmingly agreed upon by Americans.  More than that, actions speak louder than words and I think the record of the US speaks for itself on this matter.

I'm not willing to cut the margine of error on opinions that close....

 

 

The USA..UK..Russia...China...Canada...France... about all nations advance their own agendas to the expense of the truth...ain't going there.

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Sure they advance their own agendas. Of course. That is the Kant versus Mill thing I have mentioned so often. I didn't say it was selfless. Obviously it isn't. I don't know a nation in the world that is. But in general I believe that the US is a leader in this regard, and it is an American value as a matter of cultural tradition, contrary to the "once in a while comment".

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Sure they advance their own agendas. Of course. That is the Kant versus Mill thing I have mentioned so often. I didn't say it was selfless. Obviously it isn't. I don't know a nation in the world that is. But in general I believe that the US is a leader in this regard, and it is an American value as a matter of cultural tradition, contrary to the "once in a while comment".

Nah..to narrow it down some the USA..UK..Russia...China...never tell the truth...they might give ya the official version...but its hardly ever the whole truth.

 

Our feds here in the US are just a bunch of liars most of the time...even when telling the truth would be less painful to their cause.

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We are talking about "helping fellow man"....charity.....and whether or not it is a value of the US...in effect a value of the American people. That is not limited to politics, but also includes charity outside of the government and includes volunteerism I think.

 

It is this exact sentence that I am speaking about:

Even the least socialist nation in the world, the USA, likes to help their fellow man once in a while... even if half the population doesn't.

I think it is a false characterization of American values and insultingly untrue.

 

 

 

The very topic of this thread regards volunteerism....

 

 

I didn't even bother to address the "least socialist nation" notion. Even that I find highly questionable.

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We are talking about "helping fellow man"....charity.....and whether or not it is a value of the US...in effect a value of the American people. That is not limited to politics, but also includes charity outside of the government and includes volunteerism I think.

 

It is this exact sentence that I am speaking about: I think it is a false characterization of American values and insultingly untrue.

 

 

 

The very topic of this thread regards volunteerism....

Threads can and do change course a lil....

 

 

Our goverment wouldn't know the truth about whats going on in the world around them if it hit them square upside the head...

 

 

Still think we need to work with the Mexican goverment and fine the dog :filtered: out of anyone who hires an illegal...

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