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Anyway, everyone have a nice evening/night and remember: Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win you're still retreaded.

 

edit: I can't believe they censored THAT! (retreaded)

 

-=Vran=-

Boy, the Censorship is getting ridiculous.

 

It's morning over here :P

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Palestinians can form an "actual" government, and someday have a nation of their own BESIDE (as most Palestinians desire) and not INSTEAD OF Israel (as Afafat desired).

Now this bit, I agree on. We must deal with the situation in the here and now, not continue to argue history. We have two sets of people, who, for whatever reason, cannot live together. Both have valid claims to the land so you cannot simply shift one group out of the area. Solution? Divide the land and let them live side by side.

 

The saddest thing is that all this bitterness, destruction and killing is happening in, for some, the most significant holy areas in the world. It hardly seems fitting or respectful of whichever God these people worship, that so much innocent blood is spilled on such holy ground.

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Tell that to Moon, he's the one with the unrelenting grudge.

you create that resentment yourself. Your ridiculous comments as well as your fixation with wealth being the main source of pureness is nearly sickening, I can assure you that moon is saying nothing that the rest of us are not thinking.
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Anyway, everyone have a nice evening/night and remember: Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win you're still retreaded.

 

edit: I can't believe they censored THAT! (retreaded)

 

-=Vran=-

I have a brother in law who has particpated in the special olympics on numerous occasions. I will say this about him. He shows more desire, dedication, devotion, common sense, obviously has a higher IQ and inteligence then many people who make such idiotic, stupid, and childish comments as that.
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Arafat defended his people and he did an admirable job doing it. Arafat wanted what his people deserved and what his people had taken away from them. Arafat did nothing that we would not have done in his situation.

Ok... if somebody attacked, let's say, Canada, and claimed land there, you would strap a child with bombs and make them ride a bus, and then detonate the bombs, killing everyone in the bus?

If so, that's pretty pathetic, using children instead of fighting your self, or trying to solve the problem peacefully. ;)

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Arafat strapped bombs on children?

 

Care to back that up with something other then ........... he is Palestinian

He supported terrorist actions, and went about making a free palestinian state wrong, not making much progress,except in international attention.
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Which part of bombing, blowing up and bulldozing of entire Palestinian neighborhoods would you call acceptable?

 

Show me a recent case of Arafat specifically supporting terrorists activities like children with suicide bombs.

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hah! international law! right! good one moon

S'right, Pat. One can't go about assassinating Presidents just because they oppose you. You can squash his country and shut the President in a compound for three years ( if you don't mind losing a friend or 300 ) but you can't actually knock him off without permission and still receive your pay checks.
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Which part of bombing, blowing up and bulldozing of entire Palestinian neighborhoods would you call acceptable?

 

Show me a recent case of Arafat specifically supporting terrorists activities like children with suicide bombs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Authority

 

In February 2004, it was reported that the European Union (EU) anti-fraud office (OLAF) is studying documents suggesting that Yasser Arafat and the Palestinian Authority diverted tens of millions of dollars in EU funds to organizations involved in terrorist attacks, such as the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades.

 

During the Intifada, Israel has often targeted Palestinian Authority personnel and resources, whom they accuse of harboring terror. In particular, many of the people arrested, assassinated or killed in action because of their terrorist activities were employees of the Palestinian authority's security forces or militias. In Operation Defensive Shield Israel has captured documents that allegedly prove that the Palestinian Authority officially sponsors terrorist activities, which are carried out by its personnel as "shadow jobs". For instance, Israel arrested Marwan Barghouti, a prominent leader of Fatah, for his role as leader of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades.

 

The non-governmental American Council on Foreign Relations has declared the Palestinian Authority under Arafat a haven for terrorism.

 

Hours after the Israeli evacuation from Shechem (Nablus) on October 7, 2000, Palestinians desecrated and burned down the Patriarch Joseph's Tomb. The Associated Press reported that within two days "the dome of the tomb was painted green and bulldozers were seen clearing the surrounding area". It was destroyed again on October 16, 2003.

 

A yeshiva built next to the site of a 1000-year-old synagogue near Jericho, entrusted to the Palestinian Authority under the Oslo Accords, has been burned and razed.

 

The Palestinian Authority has allowed the PLO to use The Church of Saint Nicholas in Beit Jala as a base for machine gun and mortar attacks on the Israeli community Gilo.

 

On October 15, 2003, three members of a United States diplomatic convoy are killed and additional members of the convoy wounded three kilometers south of the Erez Crossing into the Gaza Strip by a terrorist bomb. The perpetrators remain at large.

 

On July 17 eve, Fatah movement members kidnapped 5 French citizens (3 men and 2 women) and held hostage in Red Crescent Society building in Khan Yunis:

 

Palestinian security officials said that the kidnapping was carried out by the Abu al-Rish Brigades, linked to Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction.

 

On July 20, 2004 David Satterfield, the second-in-charge at the United States Department of State Near East desk stated in hearing before the Senate that the Palestinian Authority has failed to arrest the Palestinian terrorists who murdered three members of an America diplomatic convoy traveling in the Gaza Strip on October 15, 2003. Satterfield states:There has been no satisfactory resolution of this case. We can only conclude that there has been a political decision taken by the chairman (Yasser Arafat) to block further progress in this investigation.

 

The firing of Qassam rockets from the Gaza Strip into Israel is strongly opposed by those living closest to the firing location due to frequent Israeli military responses to Qassam rocket launches. On July 23, 2004, an Arab boy was shot and killed by Palestinian terrorists of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades after he and his family physically opposed their attempt to set up a Qassam rocket launcher outside the family's house. Five other individuals were wounded in the incident.

 

On July 5, 2004, a federal court in the United States issued a default judgement against the Palestinian Authority and the PLO regarding the Ungar's claim that the Palestinian Authority and the PLO provide safe haven to Hamas.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLO_and_Hamas

 

One issue in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the charge that the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), the main political organization of the Palestinians, is allied with Hamas, a Palestinian fundamentalist paramilitary and political organization, which is accused of organizing suicide bombers and other attacks against Israel, often targeting civilians. Hamas is officially characterized as a terrorist group by Israel, the United States and the European Union.

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Danielos, don't you read threads before you add to them ?

 

Look at the top of your link;

 

The neutrality of this article is disputed

Wikipedia is an opensource archive, bless it. Anybody can add to it.

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It's wikipedia.

 

Do you understand how wiki's work?

 

I could start a wiki today and moon and anyone elseI chose could start writing in it, wiki sites are not, reliable sources of information when it comes to news and or politics.

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It's wikipedia.

 

Do you understand how wiki's work?

 

I could start a wiki today and moon and anyone elseI chose could start writing in it, wiki sites are not, reliable sources of information when it comes to news and or politics.

Yes, I do... and at wikipedia.org, if somebody edits an article and adds faulty or opinionated material, it is removed, and they tell you to play in the sandbox at wikipedia, if you want to edit pages.

edit: oh yeah, I found this out when I tried to add my birthday to the september 20th page. :P

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Save yourself the trouble, One2. You'll find plenty of hearsay but you'll find no evidence. If evidence existed Arafat would have been arrested.

 

Yasser Arafat; BBC Obituary.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/890161.stm

 

 

 

You dont think this is enough evidence to at least be arrested and tried?

 

Munich

 

The Munich operation was ordered by Yasser Arafat and carried out by Fatah, Arafat's faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO).

You might want to have this look like heresay but people are arrested and tried for a hell of alot less. Charles Manson still claims he did nothing wrong and killed nobody. The crazy women did it. :mrsgreen:

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'rock, from your link;

 

The mastermind of the massacre, Abu Daoud

If Arafat were a proven murderer there would be no state funeral attended by representatives of world governments.

As a military band played a funeral march, Mr Arafat's coffin was carried by a guard of honour to an Airbus plane bearing the livery of the French republic.

 

The BBC's Caroline Wyatt in Paris described the ceremony as simple but dignified - a send-off fit for a head of state, as many in France saw Mr Arafat.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4002909.stm

 

The state funeral is in Cairo tomorrow.

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If Arafat were a proven murderer

No arrest, no trial, no proven Murderer

 

However, are you saying the leader of the PLO did not know or was responsible for the killings at the 1972 olympics which is a fact that PLO terrorists did?

 

Or are you saying the PLO had nothing to do with the Murders at the Munich Olympics?

 

Are you saying that a trial should not have happened to find this out? Do you not believe there is enough evidence for a trial to say the leader was aware if not instrumental of the actions of his people?

 

What is your take on this moon? He was not aware? The PLO had nothing to do with it? What is your opinion?

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