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I think I might email ERNIE and see if I can sic him on the guy :mrgreen:

The guy has a potty mouth,,but god I love him!!!! :mrgreen: v

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Great letter Hulk. And a very good solution Jander.

Like my Dad used to say "I wouldn't spit on him if he was on fire"

My quote goes a little different.

 

"I wouldn't :filtered: on him if he were on fire" :) v

I was trying to be a good lil' girl v. :blushing: lol

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The simplicity of Good-bye came from God-Be-With-You, it then became: God by you; Today, we say good bye. Professor, Nicholas De Genova, Good bye! You are done on this earth. :nospys::nospys: :nospys

 

New york has been alerted to your every activity. He's gone! :nospys:

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Actually, Americans fight for freedom...that include freedom of speach...everyone has a right to their own opinions..( I do not share his though)...

There is a fine line between free speech and sedition.

 

I say if you don't like this country and hate it so much leave. Hell I will help him, would love ot kick him all the way to the Pacific. maybe can boot him in the :filtered: hard enough so he lands in China.

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Its been a while since I lived in New Jersey, but I still make it across the border a couple times a year. Everytime I cross and see the US Flag waving in the wind, I still have pride in my country and pratriotic emotions flow proud in me. Where I live now, alot of Canadians support the US, but the news is full of protestors in all countries. They have the freedom to protest. The jerks employed in educational facitities do not have the freedom to teach biased material. Worst of all, is the coverage. One has to wonder if negative media reports could taint or sway opinions. :blushing: Once again I have said too much. :oreo: I better go get another snack.

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Moral of the story... my strong idiological disaggreemrnts aside, the beauty of this country is that one can be heard without being shot for his of her ideas. :tux:

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Yes, but what he said was not freedom of speech...As I said before, that should be considered treason.

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Hmmm. I do not know anything about this guy, but I suspect that the has been spewing this crap for some time. He's probably made a living do it. The difference is really our media. Today the role that the media plays in our lives is so much bigger than it was even two months ago.

 

Let's face it, some dorky professor with weird opinions? This would have not made the back page of the NY Times. Now he's national news. I frankly don't believe that he deserves the attention. He's a crack pot, and the more people get irritated by him, the more he loves it. His entire deal is to incite and aggravate.

 

As I read through various forums, there is one word that I see used far too often - TREASON. Treason in our country and other countries is a very, very serious offense. Even in the USA, it can be punishable by death. The problem is that many people are beginning to think that people with countervailing opinions to that of our government are committing TREASON. This is not true! Treason is an ACT not an opinion, or stating that opinion.

 

For example if someone stole some of our military's war plans, and then gave them to the Iraqi government. That would be TREASON. It is not the opinion that creates TREASON it is the ACT. By definition, stating one's opinion cannot be TREASON.

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Treason, then, is defined only as going to war against the USA, or aiding the enemies of the USA. To be convicted, the accused must confess to treason, or be accused by two direct witnesses of the treason.

I believe he would be aiding the enemy, and he is accused by at least two of us here.

 

Really? I never hear the word treason anymore. It's just the only word I could think of that fit him (and it does).

 

Did you know that back in Veitnam, those rioting college students and other organizations actually sent food (aiding the enemy) and medical supplies (aiding again). That's just downright wrong.

 

For this professor to be lecturing in the US, to US students, teaching to rebel and, in effect, defeat the US government is wrong. We can call it other things: sedition, disloyaltoy, treachery, subversion, betrayal, and duplicity. Methinks all those words fit him.

 

I will say again that he is going beyond freedom of speech...maybe he should get out there too and fight for his own freedom of speech.

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Charging treason may not work,,but I would damn well bet a bullet would!! ;) v

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We can call it other things: sedition, disloyaltoy, treachery, subversion, betrayal, and duplicity

Yep, none of these are are fair characterizations and none of them are illegal. Reprehensible and despicable yes, but illegal no.

 

But this guy is really not worth our energy. He's a crack pot.

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But this guy is really not worth our energy. He's a crack pot.

 

 

I would have to disagree Rob,,we have folks giving up their lives overseas as I type this,,crackpot or not he needs his butt kicked!!

 

 

And I will donate my services for that cause!! but politely of course!! :) v

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Such action would make us no better than Nazis, if we silence one opinion, then who's next and where do we draw the line.

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Such action would make us no better than Nazis, if we silence one opinion, then who's next and where do we draw the line.

You calling me a nazi because I disagree with the slime bags who are protesting the war??

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Aarrrgg, no, but that's how National Socialism flurished, snuffing out those of different idiology.

 

I'd just rather live in a country where people are allowed to say such things, than one where those who speak out are silenced, anotherwords... IRAQ!

 

As a Jew, I can't stand the racist idiology of White-Supremicy groups, but their freedom to speak must be protected.

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As a Jew, I can't stand the racist idiology of White-Supremicy groups, but their freedom to speak must be protected.

 

I agree and it "will" be defended no matter what,,I guess with troops in harms way I get a little excited at times!! sorry if you took that wrong!! :) v

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Would anyone happen to have the e-mail address to the University of which he is employed? I would like to find out if he still has his job and why? :angry: I woke up a bit grumpy today, and it would be a great way to relieve stress. :shifty: I don't think a snack will help today. :oreo:

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I know it's either Columbis or Cornell, both Ivy League, I think someone posted the exact e-dress.

 

The best thing for people like him would be a one-way ticket to the front line so he can see Americans and British defending women and children who are getting shot in the back because they don't want to be used as a human shield.

 

Damn Hippie Wipper-Snappers!

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NICHOLAS DE GENOVA, Assistant Professor

Ph.D., University of Chicago

Telephone: (212) 854-0199

office: 416 Hamilton

email: [email protected]

The central concerns of my research and teaching include: labor and class formation, racialization, the production of urban space, nationalism, the politics of citizenship, and transnational social processes, especially migration. My ethnographic research explores the social productions of racialized and spatialized difference in the experiences of transnational Mexican migrant workers within the space of the U.S. nation-state. More specifically, I examine transnational urban conjunctural spaces that link the U.S. and Latin America as a standpoint of critique from which to interrogate U.S. nationalism, political economy, racialized citizenship, and immigration law. This work contributes to a reconceptualization of Latin American, Latino, and "American" (U.S.) Studies. Likewise, I am interested in the methodological problems of ethnographic research practice and the limits of anthropological disciplinary forms of knowledge and modes of representation.

 

Representative Publications:

 

1995 "Gangster Rap and Nihilism in Black America: Some Questions of Life and Death." Social Text 43: 89-132.

1995 "Check Your Head: The Cultural Politics of Rap Music." Transition 67: 123-37.

1996 "Split-Level Bedlam: Chicago at the End of the Twentieth Century." Public Culture 9:1: 114-25.

1997 "The Junkyard of Futures Past." Anthropology and Humanism 22:2: 171-79.

1998 "Race, Space, and the Reinvention of Latin America in Mexican Chicago." Latin American Perspectives 102: 25:5: 87-116

This is Information from Kylie_Smiley :)

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