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Getting the usual feedback mentioned throughout these threads on the letters sent, I tried a different approach to Gator:

Dear Sir or Madam,

 

 I have used e-wallet in the past and was quite pleased with the product.  I soon noticed that I was recieving a noticable increase in "pop-up" ads, no matter what sites that I visited.  My computer seemed to be reacting slower and displaying operational errors.  I later was informed that your software was the cause of these problems.  After uninstalling and having a friend help me to remove the remainder of your software, my computer started behaving itself once again.

 

 I installed and used Roboform, as I was told that it didn't contain the programs that your software did.  Although this program did the basics, it still wasn't as good as your program.  I uninstalled it too.

 

 I have read thoroughly, your End User License Agreement and see that ads are still a by-product of using your software.  My questions are these: Is your software available to the public without the ads?  If so, where is it to be found?  Why are the ads so hard on a computer?  I appologise for my ramblings, but I enjoyed your product, but not what it did to my computing experience.

 

Your insight is most appreciated,

 

Bernard Welch

the reply:

Bernard,

 

The Gator Corporation offers consumers Gator eWallet on both a free,

ad-supported basis and an ad-free, paid basis.  

 

Consumers who wish to get the benefits of Gator eWallet, but without

the

advertising, please visit www.gator.com. You can download Gator eWallet

without GAIN advertising for $30.00. You must use a Visa, JCB,

Discover,

or American Express to complete the transaction.

 

It is important to note that with or without the advertising support,

The

Gator Corporation applications provide the same features and

functionality, the only difference is whether you will receive pop-up

ads

from GAIN.

 

Except for not receiving GAIN ads, all information collected and used

by

The Gator Corporation is the same, regardless of whether you choose to

receive or not to receive pop-up ads from GAIN; and you are required to

accept our privacy statement and end user license agreement before you

can

install our software. If you would like to review our privacy statement

and end user license agreement, please visit our website at:

 

www.gatorcorporation.com/help/applicationprivacy/

 

As for your last question, when was the system slowing down and/or what

were the errors you were receiving?  This could have been several

things

such as low resources, a corrupt cache file, etc.. Without the

application

being installed and with such general information it is hard to tell

what

is causing this.

 

Alyson

This is the most disturbing part:

Except for not receiving GAIN ads, all information collected and used

by

The Gator Corporation is the same, regardless of whether you choose to

receive or not to receive pop-up ads from GAIN; and you are required to

accept our privacy statement and end user license agreement before you

can

install our software.

Seems that you are spied on :nospys: regardless of whether you purchase their software or use it's ad supported "free version". Amazing nonsense! :P Don't know where the "Bernard Welch" name came from, but it seemed non-aggressive and sincere. No offence intended to any Bernard Welchs' out there! :lol:

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kindashakey Posted: Sep 12 2003, 11:20 PM

Well Shaye, you are the 42nd e-mail I've received trying to sell me the

PCpitstop solution to Gator Spyware. I think its great that you have found

a way to improve your personal income sending SPAM. But sending it from

your work e-mail is just stupid. I'm sure the Columbus Rail Road would love

to hear that their employee's are using company assets to send annoying

SPAM.

 

Good Luck, and tell your friends on your Gator Spyware Forum that sending

these e-mails, is not the solution to the spyware problem. In fact, your

part of the problem. Instead, write your Congressman to stiffen penalties

against companies that have developed spyware. Or, maybe instead of

harassing me, Harass Gator. Aren't they the bad guys in this?

 

Have a Great day "Shaye"

Dunno but I think that this guy has a fair point....

 

It is spam .

 

And how many e mails from this site would it take to be taken as an attempted denial of service attack from here ?

Edited by Tankus

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kindashakey Posted: Sep 12 2003, 11:20 PM

Well Shaye, you are the 42nd e-mail I've received trying to sell me the

PCpitstop solution to Gator Spyware. I think its great that you have found

a way to improve your personal income sending SPAM. But sending it from

your work e-mail is just stupid. I'm sure the Columbus Rail Road would love

to hear that their employee's are using company assets to send annoying

SPAM.

 

Good Luck, and tell your friends on your Gator Spyware Forum that sending

these e-mails, is not the solution to the spyware problem. In fact, your

part of the problem. Instead, write your Congressman to stiffen penalties

against companies that have developed spyware. Or, maybe instead of

harassing me, Harass Gator. Aren't they the bad guys in this?

 

Have a Great day "Shaye"

Dunno but I think that this guy has a fair point....

 

It is spam .

 

And how many e mails from this site would it take to be taken as an attempted denial of service attack from here ?

I also think that mass mailing is not the best way.

I dont like gator but I dont like this method that is set up here.

It would be better to write a formal letter to these companies and send it to them via USPS registered mail service or some other service where you get a confirmation that they received it.

I am sure people would react better to that rather than these emails we are sending.

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Stop sending anymore letters .....!...methinks........!... points been made , overdone if anything , It may give this site a bad name ........

 

Difficult to "take the moral high ground" when one commercial site (the pit ,as it gets money from advertising via number of hits ) starts spamming another (with links back to its own site) under the guise of non illegal misuse of some abilities of the internet .....

Edited by Tankus

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I don't know what number of letters are required to be a denial but I am certain it is in the 1,000s not dozens. I get more junk mail per day than 42 letters. I am embarrassed that there has been so little respons but pleased that we have had some very favorable responses.

 

If you want a required reply then set your e-mail client Then click read receipt requested.

 

As for directing traffic to here. I agree. I think you can direct them to any of 2 or 3 dedicated Spyware sites instead of or in addition to this site.

 

I do not know how to tell a vendor that their practices are unacceptable except by showing them that this is a widely held belief. One or two letters of complaint (no matter how heart felt) can not have the impact that one or two hundred letters have.

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I have never found internet petitions as effective. It is too easy to put in names from data bases or phone books. If people sign with real e-mail addys that might work but I'm not going to post my e-mail addy publicly if I can avoid it.

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I'm not sure why the advertisers aren't getting it. We're not trying to sell them anything, we're trying to make them aware of their ads being displayed in GAIN windows. I will work on clarifying that, although as I read over the email we created it seems plain as day to me.

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im gonna send some emails,but do i have to copy and paste all the addresses in the sender box and send out dozens of emails?My isp would think that's pretty fishy

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awesomesurfer303 Posted: Sep 15 2003, 10:32 PM

im gonna send some emails,but do i have to copy and paste all the addresses in the sender box and send out dozens of emails?My isp would think that's pretty fishy

hmmmm..... Edited by Tankus

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