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what is important to remember is that like anything everything is a compromise when cost comes into the equation.

 

brownhornet is a big gamer but also can afford to spend a lot more on his equipment so expects a lot better performance than most people would be happy with.

 

seeing how your son is starting off from a laptop, which is the lowest of the low for gaming usually.

in my honest opinion a pc like this :- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230100

and a monitor like this :- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824025098

would be such an improvement on his gaming that he would be very happy and so would you without having to worry about over spending on your budget.

 

another thing to remember is that pc's are upgradeable once you have one, so later on you can keep the case and upgrade things like the power supply, motherboard and cpu, ram, graphics card, etc.etc when money allows later next year or when he feels the need for better performance again. eg:- http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1670091

 

when you can afford it probably the first thing i'd upgrade is the graphics card to something like the gtx 750ti (or better.) bh mentioned :- http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=gtx+750ti&N=-1&isNodeId=1

 

maybe make it his next years birthday present. ;)

 

:b33r:

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i only suggested the parts/computers because i know first hand from my son(who is a sponsored gamer) and me that low FPS while gaming can ruin the whole experience for the player,and trust me i know how young boys are with their gaming. what i would suggest is grab the computer terry listed and buy the 750ti and install it yourself,very easy to install. now you are at $499+. now grab the monitor listed and your at or below your price range of $600..you want 2gb or better on the video card,trust me. later you can upgrade like terry said.

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nothing wrong with anything you suggested bh and your correct about everything you've said about gaming performance, etc. but like i said biggest thing to remember is he's coming from a laptop so everything is going to be good to him to start with.

 

we all want to spend more on our kids to give them the best but sometimes costs over rule.

$600 was a stretch so i think mum would be happier trying to keep closer to the $500 and i really don't see the son being dissapointed and the upgrade card can then also be something he can look forward to later next year.

 

:b33r:

 

ps. i also changed the pc link from a fx4300 pc to a fx6300 pc (more money.) that you may have missed before you posted bh.

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i hear ya terry,i just dont want the son to be expecting blazing fast frame rates and be let down but depending on the game titles he likes it just may do the trick.i guess being an avid gamer makes me wish everyone could play the games as they should be played,fast at 60+ FPS. i worked on a neighbors son's computer a few months back(some old dell xps) and after seeing how the computer played his favorite game(COD series) i gave him one of my computers that was very decent for the games he likes..he came by the next day to thank me and i saw a tear in his eyes when i asked him how the computer played his game,thats what i want for all the kid gamers.. :yup: sorry to go off topic.

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just a thought bh/caintry seeing how ez said you could configure your cyberpower pc i thought i'd visit the site and see what i could come up with close to the $500 mark for best bang for the buck including monitor but being in the uk i get to this site :- https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/CYBERPOWER_H110_CONFIGURATOR

where everything is only in £'s and not $'s.

 

so maybe one of you can configure the best pc possible for her from the usa site.

 

then post what you chose so she can go and order it from them, maybe cheaper than newegg for instance or same price but better hardware choices.

 

:b33r:

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just a thought bh/caintry seeing how ez said you could configure your cyberpower pc i thought i'd visit the site and see what i could come up with close to the $500 mark for best bang for the buck including monitor but being in the uk i get to this site :- https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/CYBERPOWER_H110_CONFIGURATOR

where everything is only in £'s and not $'s.

 

so maybe one of you can configure the best pc possible for her from the usa site.

 

then post what you chose so she can go and order it from them, maybe cheaper than newegg for instance or same price but better hardware choices.

 

:b33r:

 

 

i did that the day of the first posting,their cheapest rig starts at $505 and that doesnt include cd/dvd drive or operating sysytem so i gave up on that. window 8 or higher is an extra $130+

 

base model:https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/INTEL_i3_SFF_Configurator

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yes got to the usa site eventually myself and thought i was onto a good thing with slightly better parts for $539 then when i went through the configurator and saw it didn't include monitor like in the picture or os then the price sky rocketed. :laughing:

 

so the newegg pc and monitor options look like the best deal for the money in my opinion.

 

:b33r:

 

was looking at this one myself :- https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/AMD_Quad_Core_Configurator

Edited by terry1966

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Still here EZ!!

 

Plenty of good advice from everyone else so I just left the thread to run. I build my own systems and run Linux; not really a gamer, so I'm not fully up on the best 'bang for buck' vid cards; but there are some good deals out there for pre-built systems but you are going to need a decent monitor as well.

Brownhornet nails it with FPS; if you have 8gb onboard RAM and SSD for the OS and a decent video card you are there in my opinion. Trouble is if you build it yourself you'll need to include the cost of buying a windows DVD; so buying a prebuilt from Newegg or Overclockers (do you have them in the states??) would be my route.

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i hear ya terry,i just dont want the son to be expecting blazing fast frame rates and be let down but depending on the game titles he likes it just may do the trick.i guess being an avid gamer makes me wish everyone could play the games as they shfamlould be played,fast at 60+ FPS. i worked on a neighbors son's computer a few months back(some old dell xps) and after seeing how the computer played his favorite game(COD series) i gave him one of my computers that was very decent for the games he likes..he came by the next day to thank me and i saw a tear in his eyes when i asked him how the computer played his game,thats what i want for all the kid gamers.. :yup: sorry to go off topic.

 

 

Now that's what I'm wanting him to feel. He's always been into computers and gaming and this laptop was a hand me down and it's one of the slowest computers I've ever seen

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nothing wrong with anything you suggested bh and your correct about everything you've said about gaming performance, etc. but like i said biggest thing to remember is he's coming from a laptop so everything is going to be good to him to start with.

 

we all want to spend more on our kids to give them the best but sometimes costs over rule.

$600 was a stretch so i think mum would be happier trying to keep closer to the $500 and i really don't see the son being dissapointed and the upgrade card can then also be something he can look forward to later next year.

 

:b33r:

 

ps. i also changed the pc link from a fx4300 pc to a fx6300 pc (more money.) that you may have missed before you posted bh.

 

 

Yes the $600 was a bit to far to strech but if it made the difference between FPS I would be willing to go it.

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i did that the day of the first posting,their cheapest rig starts at $505 and that doesnt include cd/dvd drive or operating sysytem so i gave up on that. window 8 or higher is an extra $130+

 

base model:https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/INTEL_i3_SFF_Configurator

 

 

Yes. that's the same problem I have. I did get one to $604 with a monitor but it wasn't the exact way I thought it should be. I wanted the CPU to be Intel and graphics card to be Nvidia or better but the price changed dramatically when I customized it...so frustrating!

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0111MU5ZA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

The PC

And

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0098Y77U0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

The monitor

 

 

This is what I came up with, I haven't ordered anything yet. I'm not happy with AMD anything. I really feel Intel is the way to go. If I had to sacrifice or "roll the dice" and settle for something I would think as long as it was Intel i3 or higher then the graphics card could be on board or AMD. I feel that way because I've seen i3 and how quick they are to load videos and play Facebook games. My laptop is AMD 8 and it's quick but the i3 is quicker

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0111MU5ZA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

The PC

And

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0098Y77U0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

The monitor

 

 

This is what I came up with, I haven't ordered anything yet. I'm not happy with AMD anything. I really feel Intel is the way to go. If I had to sacrifice or "roll the dice" and settle for something I would think as long as it was Intel i3 or higher then the graphics card could be on board or AMD. I feel that way because I've seen i3 and how quick they are to load videos and play Facebook games. My laptop is AMD 8 and it's quick but the i3 is quicker

 

 

 

heres what i suggest: grab this from newegg..http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230032i know it only has 4gb of sysytem memory but you could add another 4gb stick for $20. it also has the r7 240 video card,the computer you listed from amazon i believe has the r7 250 and there isnt that big a difference between the 2. then add the monitor you found

 

 

EDIT: or if you wanted to you could order this..http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104446and when you get the computer remove the 4gb stick(save it as a spare) and install the 8gb of memory

Edited by brownhornet

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0111MU5ZA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

The PC

And

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0098Y77U0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

The monitor

 

 

This is what I came up with, I haven't ordered anything yet. I'm not happy with AMD anything. I really feel Intel is the way to go. If I had to sacrifice or "roll the dice" and settle for something I would think as long as it was Intel i3 or higher then the graphics card could be on board or AMD. I feel that way because I've seen i3 and how quick they are to load videos and play Facebook games. My laptop is AMD 8 and it's quick but the i3 is quicker

good choices in my opinion and he'll be very happy with it i promise. ;)

 

there really isn't anything that makes any other suggestions much better and it's not until about the $800 mark that you'd be able to buy anything that much better (with an i5 cpu) than what you've chosen in my opinion.

 

:b33r:

 

just for info, there really is nothing wrong with amd cpu's, yes they may not be the strongest/fastest compared to intel cpu's when it comes to benchmarks etc. but in everyday use they do offer plenty of performance when on a budget and makes using the pc a pleasure, that fx6300 cpu for instance is in the top 3 tier's of gaming cpu's according to the list here :- http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,review-32901-5.html

 

 

I feel that way because I've seen i3 and how quick they are to load videos and play Facebook games.

i'd put money on it the reason the i3 seemed quicker was because that pc had a better/faster hard drive or more memory, maybe even just a faster internet connection and had nothing or very little to do with the different cpu's. ;)

 

i could build you a very very fast pc, almost instant response to a mouse click and you'd never know it used amd cpu's and graphics. :mrwinky:

Edited by terry1966

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Sorry guys I've been bogged down with work the last few days! I'll check out the link and get back to you guys. Thank you for all the help and advice!

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looks like i posted the wrong link for cpu hierarchy chart or they changed it so here is a link to new chart :- http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html

 

and here's the graphics card chart :- http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

 

:b33r:

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