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So I know these things are built for Gaming....but how do I know what I need based on what I'm going to be doing with it? How much memory do I need? What if its not enough memory? What kind of processor? Should it have a integrated on board graphic card or whats the difference if it doesn't?

My son asked for this gaming PC for Christmas so anything y'all can tell me would help. I know he plays online and uses Steam to download and play games with other people. I really don't want to talk to someone in the retail business because they assume I know the difference between AMD 2 gig graphics and NVIDEA or Intel I3 processor and AMD Fx processor and I have no clue what they mean!

 

Thanks for any help!

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I think we need to start with your budget, as that will determine what you can get.

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Thanks for the response! I'm working with $500 maybe $600 but that's pushing it. I've looked at them online and there's such a difference between a $479 one and a $529 one.

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Well, I'll go out on a limb here and say that for the $$$ this one would probably be my pick:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/CyberPowerPC-Black-Blue-Gamer-Xtreme-GXi9700W-Desktop-PC-with-Intel-Core-i3-6100-Dual-Core-Processor-8GB-Memory-1TB-Hard-Drive-and-Windows-10-Home/47027954

But then again, I'd build my own caintry_boy PC... :lol:

Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157528

CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117374

Memory - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455

Graphics Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487024

Hard Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840

Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811235041

Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139054

Total around $547

Not a Cyberpower and not "top of the line" but he could build it himself and would have something that would give quite a bit of satisfaction if I owned it... ;)

 

edit: there are some rebates involved for some of the parts I listed, you can click the rebate links to see how much rebate and what is necessary to get them.

 

 

 

 

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Thanks Caintry Boy! The Walmart link you shared is one of the ones I was comparing other lower priced ones to. A $50 price difference changes if the computer is i3 or AMD..I've seen a i3 and it's pretty quick but I don't know what I'm comparing it to :) If I knew enough about it I would let him try to build his own(that's where he's headed) but I wouldn't know where to start lol!

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Thanks Caintry Boy! The Walmart link you shared is one of the ones I was comparing other lower priced ones to. A $50 price difference changes if the computer is i3 or AMD..I've seen a i3 and it's pretty quick but I don't know what I'm comparing it to :) If I knew enough about it I would let him try to build his own(that's where he's headed) but I wouldn't know where to start lol!

 

How old is this youngster CarolynStapleton?

 

 

 

 

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reality is you can build one and save money or buy from a store and pay a bit more.what worries me about the computer you listed is that darn video card especially if he likes to play newer games. the one you listed could play games but the performance wouldnt be to good,nothing worse than playing a game that is choppy or lags.for gaming you would want 8gigs of memory,more the better and a decent quad core CPU.i3,i5 by intel. AMD isnt bad but the intel's are much better at gaming,i have both AMD and intel gaming rigs and intel just does a better job..i know its more than you want to spend but i would consider this computer...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227641too bad you dont live near buy us as we could build your son a nice gaming rig..

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How old is this youngster CarolynStapleton?

 

 

 

 

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He's 14 ...He has a laptop now that's always having some sort of issue. It loads 2 FPS and that really messes with his game play.

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reality is you can build one and save money or buy from a store and pay a bit more.what worries me about the computer you listed is that darn video card especially if he likes to play newer games. the one you listed could play games but the performance wouldnt be to good,nothing worse than playing a game that is choppy or lags.for gaming you would want 8gigs of memory,more the better and a decent quad core CPU.i3,i5 by intel. AMD isnt bad but the intel's are much better at gaming,i have both AMD and intel gaming rigs and intel just does a better job..i know its more than you want to spend but i would consider this computer...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227641too bad you dont live near buy us as we could build your son a nice gaming rig..

are you referring to the Walmart link? I don't guess it matters really. He's really got his heart set on the Cyber Power brand because his friend has hyped him up about it. Didn't Dell use to build a PC the way you wanted it? I'm sure other companies do but I don't know enough about the gaming part of it to "order" one.

 

So whats the best video card for gaming? I've seen the i3,i7 and some have NVIDEA(sp) graphics cards and others have on board graphics card. I wrote down what you suggested with 8 gigs ans quad core. This is the type of information I'm trying to get and compare with what other people say works best.I knew that coming to Pc Pitstop I would get the answers I needed. If it really saves that much to build it from scratch I'll read up on it and see the difference. Thank you for the info!

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2 FPS is very unplayable to say the least,30 FPS and up is best. the best video card depends on what you want to spend,$100-600+. onboard graphis are horrible for gaming in my opinion.as far as video cards go you want one with atleast 2gb of memory or more. the AMD R7 260 with 2gb memory or the Nvidia GTX 750ti are good starting points for video cards..heres another option...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230094

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Thank you for giving me something to compare the 2 FPS to...So 30 and above is best? Wow that's a big difference for sure. He said the other day that when he plugs the laptop into a bigger screen that it distorts the image and slows down the computer. I've noticed that none of these Cyber Pc's have monitors with them so I suggested using his smart TV and that's when he says it's distorted. Can a smart TV or HDMI TV be used with a PC?

 

2 FPS is very unplayable to say the least,30 FPS and up is best. the best video card depends on what you want to spend,$100-600+. onboard graphis are horrible for gaming in my opinion.as far as video cards go you want one with atleast 2gb of memory or more. the AMD R7 260 with 2gb memory or the Nvidia GTX 750ti are good starting points for video cards..heres another option...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230094

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Thank you for giving me something to compare the 2 FPS to...So 30 and above is best? Wow that's a big difference for sure. He said the other day that when he plugs the laptop into a bigger screen that it distorts the image and slows down the computer. I've noticed that none of these Cyber Pc's have monitors with them so I suggested using his smart TV and that's when he says it's distorted. Can a smart TV or HDMI TV be used with a PC?

 

 

yes you can use a TV with a PC to game but it wont play well.my friend asked me the same question as he had a 50'' sony smart TV,he said the game looked and played like cr*p.he didnt believe me till we played the same game on my computer monitor and it looked and played just fine..a decent monitor with a low response time like 1-5ms can be had for a decent price..the big TV's just arent geared for gaming. to play on a big screen you would need an expensive TV and an above average gaming computer which means more money

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I think we need to start with your budget, as that will determine what you can get.

Where'd ya go? I was hoping you'd have some experience and advice

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You can blow quite a bit of $$ on a monitor. Here's a decent gaming one by Asus (3 year warranty) > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236305&ignorebbr=1&cm_re=PPSSHGGRXVLVAN-_-24-236-305-_-Product

Attach that to whatever PC you decide on or build and he should be happy. Of course bigger ones are way more expensive...

 

 

 

 

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Hmm, we seem to have lost CarolynStapleton...where'd she go ?

 

 

 

 

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I'm still here :) insinuating the name change lol? I've had so many accounts on PC Pitstop over the years and forgot emails or passwords so I used my Facebook info to create my account this time. I didn't like my entire name showing so I changed it to what its always been ;) We did loose someone though..Nigsy disappeared!

 

You can blow quite a bit of $$ on a monitor. Here's a decent gaming one by Asus (3 year warranty) > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236305&ignorebbr=1&cm_re=PPSSHGGRXVLVAN-_-24-236-305-_-Product

Attach that to whatever PC you decide on or build and he should be happy. Of course bigger ones are way more expensive...

 

 

 

 

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The whole monitor thing would save money and allow me to spend it on the actual tower but my son pointed out he'll still be using the Playstation AND the Desktop at the same time so I guess I'm trying to avoid the inevitable purchase so I know he'll get exactly what he needs to be up and running full force. That's hard to explain to a 14 year old lol. The monitor you suggested is expensive! Hell it's all expensive! Would his image quality be affected by a cheaper monitor?

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Without researching it before I ask I wonder if a different brand gaming pc would be a less expensive way to go and maybe get "all in one" that includes a monitor. Since when did they stop including monitors when your buying a desktop?!!!

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were you to build your own this video shows what can be had for $600...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lJ52NmnGh4

 

 

I wish I knew someone to build one for him, I wouldn't feel comfortable making that choice or being the one doing it! After reseaching a little Cyber PCs are customiazble but WOW!!

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I'm still here :) insinuating the name change lol? I've had so many accounts on PC Pitstop over the years and forgot emails or passwords so I used my Facebook info to create my account this time. I didn't like my entire name showing so I changed it to what its always been ;) We did loose someone though..Nigsy disappeared!

 

 

The whole monitor thing would save money and allow me to spend it on the actual tower but my son pointed out he'll still be using the Playstation AND the Desktop at the same time so I guess I'm trying to avoid the inevitable purchase so I know he'll get exactly what he needs to be up and running full force. That's hard to explain to a 14 year old lol. The monitor you suggested is expensive! Hell it's all expensive! Would his image quality be affected by a cheaper monitor?

 

A better quality monitor (more $$) will give a better image, but depends on the graphics card.

 

 

Without researching it before I ask I wonder if a different brand gaming pc would be a less expensive way to go and maybe get "all in one" that includes a monitor. Since when did they stop including monitors when your buying a desktop?!!!

 

They still sell PC's that come with monitors but generally not gaming PC's.

 

 

 

 

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So the CPU determines how fast a game loads and there's so many choices when it comes to CPUs. I thought AMD was only video card but I've seen some that have AMD processors( I hope that makes sense and I don't look stupid here) and Intel i3,i7. I've run into the problem of on board graphic cards(AMD radeon) being paired with Intel i3s,i7s (the type of CPU I am interested in) and I feel like the Nvidia graphic cards are a better way to go.

 

Ughhh! it's all running together at this point! I've read so much and have a better idea of what he needs and I see why everyone says to build it myself because it's cheaper and most manufacturers don't pair the things that should be paired together! And monitors add another $200 to get a good one! I need a break from this for now lol. I appreciate you hanging in there with this conversation and working thru my confusion and questions.

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i wouldnt worry bout load times,rather FPS and the game playing smooth.like i said,for gaming use intel. i built an i7 4770k for myself but my son somehow uses it now as his own.i also have an AMD rig and the intel beats it hands down. CPU.memory and hard drive all affect the load times. i only use Asus or BenQ monitors and you can find a good one on sale for around $150..i like this one as well..http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0ZX1FH9738

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