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have to put together a new PC. needs to be fast, here's some starters. Not sure what MB to get. Going to use the onboard graphics

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116896 cpu

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231445 ram

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236625 HD

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028 psu

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112316 case

 

haven't look at this stuff for a bit. just want make sure I am on right track.

 

 

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looks like a good list of parts,if your just gonna use the graphics chip on the i5 then that PSU will be fine. im partial to Asus boards so i suggest you have a look at this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131990 its a micro atx board to match the case you picked,you did want a smaller case right? just checking. i assume this is just for everyday use.

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Yea. just everyday use. lot of internet and some basic kid games. 3yr old stuff.

 

I was figuring the ssd might be a waste for what they going to do. a side from a faster boot time what advantage would I gain.

 

I do appreciate the input!

 

I like asus and gigabyte.

 

I like this one. couldn't really tell if its better then the Kingston one above

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147248 ssd

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when shopping an SSD, i look at the read/write speeds....personally, i wouldn’t buy one with speeds under 500MB/s

 

atm i have a Kingston HyperX 120Gb (ubuntu) and a PNY XLR8 120Gb (win8) installed. i have owned intel, OCZ and Adata in the past. they have all worked great.

 

like Nigsy, i also highly recommend....especially with the lower prices right now on 240/250Gb models! :tup:

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Yea. just everyday use. lot of internet and some basic kid games. 3yr old stuff.

 

I was figuring the ssd might be a waste for what they going to do. a side from a faster boot time what advantage would I gain.

 

I do appreciate the input!

 

I like asus and gigabyte.

 

I like this one. couldn't really tell if its better then the Kingston one above

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147248 ssd

 

i have some of those 840 drives and they work great, a faster boot up along with apps that open/load faster. my choices would be:Asus then Gigabyte and MSI for boards

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personally i'd say the 1tb hd your using would be plenty fast enough and i'd put the money your thinking of spending on a ssd to a graphics card, even a $100 dedicated graphics card is going to offer greater flexibility and enjoyment over the onboard graphics than adding an ssd is going to offer you in my opinion.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%204027&IsNodeId=1&name=%2475%20-%20%24100

 

yes i do run a ssd in my personal machine and love it, but it doesn't truly offer me any noticeable real world benefits besides startup because all my data is stored on a normal hd anyway.

 

:b33r:

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I was thinking along the same lines as you terry. But they will be running everything from the ssd. They don't use much space. last PC they only had 85gigs on HD.

 

 

Also would I lose much by switching to this i3 vs the selected i5

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116946

 

Im working a litte higher than I wanted price wise. but not much.

 

I can also trim the case cost if I need to. I just liked that one.

 

well thanks to you guys im getting there. appreciate all the input!

 

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personally seeing how it's not going to be used for anything processor intensive (video editing,etc), then i'd say no you wouldn't lose anything much performance wise by going the i3 route.

 

dual core cpu is more than adequate for most people's use anyway, more than that is just really for bragging rights unless your into serious muti tasking or heavy process intensive work which most people aren't.

 

:b33r:

 

i'd definitely add a graphics card tho.

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dropping down to the i3 isnt a bad thing at all and will save you 75 bucks,scratch the ssd and stick with the WD black drive(i use the same one and its fast) and you save over 100$. not sure how the onboard grapics work but i have heard they are not to bad for email,photos,vids ETC.. you can hold off on that and upgrade if needed for cheap like terry suggested. you can also save by going with a different brand than Lian Li. they make some nice cases,just a suggestion. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163186

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here is something to chew on...

 

no need for a video card (the built-in graphics of this cpu are better then any card terry linked to), quad-core cpu, double the ram, better power supply, plus an ssd and a 1tb hd (hard drive is for storage, it does not need to be a WD black). all for around $700:

 

MB: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813128659

 

CPU: http://www.newegg.co...Item=19-113-331

 

RAM: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820211814

 

CASE: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811147166

 

SSD: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820147248

 

HD: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822236339

 

PSU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139020

 

if you skip the hd and go with the psu you originally picked, it comes out to about $620. if you cut it back down to the 8gbs of ram you originally posted that will save you another $40-50. if you want pure speed....do not skip the ssd.

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Orrr, you could get the best of both worlds and save some money by goin w/an AMD A10-7850K. It's not a powerhouse, but based on your stated uses, I think it to be the better option, especially when paired with ddr3 2133 ram

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no need for a video card (the built-in graphics of this cpu are better then any card terry linked to),

no idea where you get your info from but there's no way the graphics on that chip is better than the dedicated graphics cards i linked to at newegg.

 

chip :- http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+8670D

r7 250 :- http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+R7+250&id=2768

 

:b33r:

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It went out today. Should be here Thursday. Can't wait it's been a while for new build.

 

I checked my shelf and I have a HIS radeon hd 4870 unused. 128 - 1g ddr5

 

that should be better than onboard I hope :clap:

 

I went with the lian li case

 

Item List:

Item Number: Item Description: Quantity: Price: N82E16813131990 MB ASUS|H87M-PLUS/CSM LGA1150 R 1 109.49 N82E16817139028 PSU CORSAIR| CX600 600W RT 1 69.99 N82E16819116946 CPU INTEL|CORE I3 4130 3.4G 3M R 1 124.99 N82E16820147248 SSD 250G|SAMSUNG MZ-7TE250BW R 1 144.99 N82E16820231445 MEM 4Gx2|GSKILL F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM 1 85.99 N82E16827135204 DVD BRN ASUS | DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS% 2 19.99 N82E16835103099 CPU COOLER CM| RR-212E-20PK-R2 R 1 34.99 N82E16835186079 CASE FAN ARCTIC AFACO-12000-GBA01 R 3 8.99

 

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Well. It's all together!!

 

I'm having a few problems. The PC won't boot with my W7 usb3 stick in. It just hangs at asus screen. Won't even let me enter the bios.

 

used a usb2 stick and installed W7 then installed the usb3 driver and system recognized the usb3 drive and it works, but still if I restart with it in same thing just hangs up.

 

Also put the hyper 212 evo cooler on. It's not loose temps read 28c idle. but I can turn the heat sink ever so slightly. while I was doing cable management I noticed it was a bit crooked. I gently straightened it out. not sure what that's all about. forst time I used that cooler. maybe didn't tighten the center screw enough?

 

any thoughts?

 

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monitor temps, something needs tightening in my opinion (backplate maybe?) if it moved that easily, just don't over tighten and break anything.

 

as to the usb problem, try disabling usb boot options in bios and see if that makes a difference.

 

:b33r:

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It's on there tight. temps been holding all night. 24c idle - 55c under full load (prime95)

 

It only turns a few degree's side to side. and only the heatsink turns. the bracket stays put.

 

its not super loose, its just like it spins on the cpu but has pressure.

 

Still working on usb boot problem. usb2 stick no problem, just when I have a usb3 one plugged in.

 

Doing a bios update right now.

 

Edit: bios update had no effect on usb3 boot. I'll keep digging

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thought there was a little notch the heat sink locked into on the bracket that stopped that, doesn't sound like anything to worry about tho.

 

go into the bios and find your usb boot options and disable/ turn them off and see if things change.

 

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those temps are completely fine,i have an older zalman cooler that does the same thing only mine rotates more than yours but it works fine. i use to have a card reader that would freeze the system when it was plugged in,took forever to pin point it. did you go to the asus site and get the most current update,i used the asus auto update then found out i was 2 updates behind the current one.

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Couldn't be happier with the system. well quad core for bench numbers :)

 

ssd rocks!

 

once I figure the usb3 boot problem out. (not that big a deal. usb2 sticks work)

 

install the hd 4870 and its ready to roll. I never seen a system so fast.

 

22sec boot from full power down. 13sec for restart. malwarebytes scanned in less than one minute.

 

going to be hard to give this one to my buddy! :rofl3:

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