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There is a new-ish pill I've been prescribed by my doctor that is close to a miracle for Type II diabetics. My doctor lite up like a light bulb when she was talking about it. I was rather amused just watching her talk. Anyway.

 

In normal operation the kidney acts as a type of dam where if your blood sugar reaches a certain high level (I would guess for most people somewhere over 300) it lets out a flood of glucose ("blood sugar") from your bloodstream until the glucose level is back down to the level were it stops the flood. Still very very high but not imminently life threatening for most people. At this high level the glucose is toxic and causing a lot of damage over time. This is why un-diagnosed Type II symptoms typically include an intense need to urinate frequently because the body is desperately trying to dump glucose via the kidneys.

 

This pill changes the kidney chemistry so that it starts dumping glucose at a lower blood sugar level. Its the same thing as if you lower the gates on a dam and allow the water to escape sooner thus having a lower level of water behind the dam. For example, (and these numbers I'm just pulling out of the hat based on a few weeks of taking this pill) before the pill my blood sugar would range anywhere from 80 to 250 depending on if I had eaten or not and what I ate and if I got the amount of needed fast acting insulin calculated correctly based on what I ate. But, even with the correct fast acting insulin there was still a delay from time to time in bringing the blood sugar down. Especially if I would overdo it on the blood sugar killer white rice. Now after taking this pill my body is dumping the glucose when it hits about 150 to 160 and I'm using less fast acting insulin since my blood sugar peaks for only a short time after eating before the kidneys start the glucose dump. I still need the 24 hour slow acting insulin to keep the daily average blood sugar number down, but it has made a huge difference in controlling the higher numbers. And I've significantly reduced the amount of fast acting insulin that I need to use

 

To give you a real life example from today. At work 5 hours ago I ate almost two burritos and about half the chili cheese fries from a fast food place. I didn't have fast acting insulin at work to use as I had forgotten to bring it. Before taking this pill my blood sugar would have been about 190 - 220. With the pill onboard (and I will take another pill in just a few minutes so the pill is at the end of its 24 hour span) I just took my blood sugar and it reads 161. Surely this is far from a perfectly safe blood sugar level, but on the other hand, it is much much better than the 190 - 220 that I would otherwise have been at for 5 to 6 hours since I had forgotten to bring the insulin.

 

It is those sustained higher blood sugar numbers that take, literally, days and months off your life span. And when you don't take the fast acting insulin right away at the correct time (which I think I can accurately say every Type II diabetic fails to do now and then), you can't make up for it by taking the insulin at a later time, if you take the insulin to long after the meal you end up with blood sugar far too low since the insulin keeps doing its thing after your body is done dealing with the food you ate.

 

So what I'm saying is that this pill makes it far easier for me to use less fast acting insulin and to have better overall control of my blood sugar range.

 

My apologies. I must be tired since I just rambled on and on here.

 

Anyway in the US the pill is called Invokana (canagliflozin) and I'm taking the 300 mg pill. There is also a 100 mg. If you have Type II diabetes this pill could be something useful to discuss with your doctor.

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There is a new-ish pill I've been prescribed by my doctor that is close to a miracle for Type II diabetics. My doctor lite up like a light bulb when she was talking about it. I was rather amused just watching her talk. Anyway.

 

In normal operation the kidney acts as a type of dam where if your blood sugar reaches a certain high level (I would guess for most people somewhere over 300) it lets out a flood of glucose ("blood sugar") from your bloodstream until the glucose level is back down to the level were it stops the flood. Still very very high but not imminently life threatening for most people. At this high level the glucose is toxic and causing a lot of damage over time. This is why un-diagnosed Type II symptoms typically include an intense need to urinate frequently because the body is desperately trying to dump glucose via the kidneys.

 

This pill changes the kidney chemistry so that it starts dumping glucose at a lower blood sugar level. Its the same thing as if you lower the gates on a dam and allow the water to escape sooner thus having a lower level of water behind the dam. For example, (and these numbers I'm just pulling out of the hat based on a few weeks of taking this pill) before the pill my blood sugar would range anywhere from 80 to 250 depending on if I had eaten or not and what I ate and if I got the amount of needed fast acting insulin calculated correctly based on what I ate. But, even with the correct fast acting insulin there was still a delay from time to time in bringing the blood sugar down. Especially if I would overdo it on the blood sugar killer white rice. Now after taking this pill my body is dumping the glucose when it hits about 150 to 160 and I'm using less fast acting insulin since my blood sugar peaks for only a short time after eating before the kidneys start the glucose dump. I still need the 24 hour slow acting insulin to keep the daily average blood sugar number down, but it has made a huge difference in controlling the higher numbers. And I've significantly reduced the amount of fast acting insulin that I need to use

 

To give you a real life example from today. At work 5 hours ago I ate almost two burritos and about half the chili cheese fries from a fast food place. I didn't have fast acting insulin at work to use as I had forgotten to bring it. Before taking this pill my blood sugar would have been about 190 - 220. With the pill onboard (and I will take another pill in just a few minutes so the pill is at the end of its 24 hour span) I just took my blood sugar and it reads 161. Surely this is far from a perfectly safe blood sugar level, but on the other hand, it is much much better than the 190 - 220 that I would otherwise have been at for 5 to 6 hours since I had forgotten to bring the insulin.

 

It is those sustained higher blood sugar numbers that take, literally, days and months off your life span. And when you don't take the fast acting insulin right away at the correct time (which I think I can accurately say every Type II diabetic fails to do now and then), you can't make up for it by taking the insulin at a later time, if you take the insulin to long after the meal you end up with blood sugar far too low since the insulin keeps doing its thing after your body is done dealing with the food you ate.

 

So what I'm saying is that this pill makes it far easier for me to use less fast acting insulin and to have better overall control of my blood sugar range.

 

My apologies. I must be tired since I just rambled on and on here.

 

Anyway in the US the pill is called Invokana (canagliflozin) and I'm taking the 300 mg pill. There is also a 100 mg. If you have Type II diabetes this pill could be something useful to discuss with your doctor.

 

Thanks David! I'll ask about it...

 

 

 

 

:geezer:

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There is a new-ish pill I've been prescribed by my doctor that is close to a miracle for Type II diabetics. My doctor lite up like a light bulb when she was talking about it. I was rather amused just watching her talk. Anyway.

 

In normal operation the kidney acts as a type of dam where if your blood sugar reaches a certain high level (I would guess for most people somewhere over 300) it lets out a flood of glucose ("blood sugar") from your bloodstream until the glucose level is back down to the level were it stops the flood. Still very very high but not imminently life threatening for most people. At this high level the glucose is toxic and causing a lot of damage over time. This is why un-diagnosed Type II symptoms typically include an intense need to urinate frequently because the body is desperately trying to dump glucose via the kidneys.

 

This pill changes the kidney chemistry so that it starts dumping glucose at a lower blood sugar level. Its the same thing as if you lower the gates on a dam and allow the water to escape sooner thus having a lower level of water behind the dam. For example, (and these numbers I'm just pulling out of the hat based on a few weeks of taking this pill) before the pill my blood sugar would range anywhere from 80 to 250 depending on if I had eaten or not and what I ate and if I got the amount of needed fast acting insulin calculated correctly based on what I ate. But, even with the correct fast acting insulin there was still a delay from time to time in bringing the blood sugar down. Especially if I would overdo it on the blood sugar killer white rice. Now after taking this pill my body is dumping the glucose when it hits about 150 to 160 and I'm using less fast acting insulin since my blood sugar peaks for only a short time after eating before the kidneys start the glucose dump. I still need the 24 hour slow acting insulin to keep the daily average blood sugar number down, but it has made a huge difference in controlling the higher numbers. And I've significantly reduced the amount of fast acting insulin that I need to use

 

To give you a real life example from today. At work 5 hours ago I ate almost two burritos and about half the chili cheese fries from a fast food place. I didn't have fast acting insulin at work to use as I had forgotten to bring it. Before taking this pill my blood sugar would have been about 190 - 220. With the pill onboard (and I will take another pill in just a few minutes so the pill is at the end of its 24 hour span) I just took my blood sugar and it reads 161. Surely this is far from a perfectly safe blood sugar level, but on the other hand, it is much much better than the 190 - 220 that I would otherwise have been at for 5 to 6 hours since I had forgotten to bring the insulin.

 

It is those sustained higher blood sugar numbers that take, literally, days and months off your life span. And when you don't take the fast acting insulin right away at the correct time (which I think I can accurately say every Type II diabetic fails to do now and then), you can't make up for it by taking the insulin at a later time, if you take the insulin to long after the meal you end up with blood sugar far too low since the insulin keeps doing its thing after your body is done dealing with the food you ate.

 

So what I'm saying is that this pill makes it far easier for me to use less fast acting insulin and to have better overall control of my blood sugar range.

 

My apologies. I must be tired since I just rambled on and on here.

 

Anyway in the US the pill is called Invokana (canagliflozin) and I'm taking the 300 mg pill. There is also a 100 mg. If you have Type II diabetes this pill could be something useful to discuss with your doctor.

Thanks David! I'll ask about it...

 

 

 

 

:geezer:

my wife used to be on insulin needles 5 times a day

Then she gotten referred to an diabetes specialist

and he put her on this medication

 

ONGLYZA >>>>>TAKE ONE TABLET ONCE A DAY>>>>>>SAXAGLIPIN HCL

 

5MG per tablet

 

this is pill form

 

now she only does needles once a day

and her sugar levls is .....4 to 8 .....

which is better than what it was before

 

THIS IS ONLY FOR YOUR INFORMATION

 

besides im not sure if its available in your country

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besides im not sure if its available in your country

 

Probably not, our govt. only authorizes stuff that will kill us eventually... :rolleyes:

 

 

 

 

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It is available in the USA. It is currently undergoing a "review" trial for increasing heart failure but is still available for 2nd line therapy for type II diabetes where lifestyle changes and treatment with metformin or a sulfonylurea are not sufficient to control blood sugar levels, as long as there is no history of pancreatitis in the patient.

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ONGLYZA is one of several medications available which tries to increase the production of natural insulin. Sometimes these medicines are effective and sometimes not. I think they typically are most effective earlier rather than later in the course of a Type II persons treatment.

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OMG!! i'm not around for a bit, due to my own fun little health problems, and the place goes all to heck....

 

as i was reading thru this thread, i thought to myself that i just can't take it anymore n' next post was Juliet's, or maybe TomK's, saying 'enuff already! can't take the stress'. i third that emotion....

 

wubs Fire -:)

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ONGLYZA is one of several medications available which tries to increase the production of natural insulin. Sometimes these medicines are effective and sometimes not. I think they typically are most effective earlier rather than later in the course of a Type II persons treatment.

its doing good for my wife ...................................she was on 4 or 5 needles a day now shes on one been like that for 5 years

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Oops. Apparently the system doesn't like the word I used for jabbing your finger with a needle in order to get a drop of blood for testing. Maybe I should have said "stick"?

Like the great George Carlin once said, you can beep your finger but you can't finger your beep.

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Well, been doing cardiac rehab therapy for a little over 2 weeks now and getting my butt kicked. Doing 30 min on treadmill and 25 on a "Nustep", a machine that you sit on and "step" and "row" (arm motion) at the same time. Really doing pretty well with all of it and am getting stronger. Walking on my own to boot and need to do MORE of that... Blood sugars are doing good, I went on a "sliding scale" and it's working nicely.

Just an update for y'all...

 

 

 

 

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Awesome Caintry. I'll be looking for you next year at the Boston Marathon!

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Now that's great to hear!

 

Keep at it ol' friend, and crank up the tunes in a headset if you got it while you're doing all that exercise and it just seems to go so much easier.

 

Rock on, champ!! :rocks:

 

:) Y

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Great news CB. I have not been on in awhile and seen this, keep going strong bud, I wish nothing but the best for you sir.

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Well, been doing cardiac rehab therapy for a little over 2 weeks now and getting my butt kicked. Doing 30 min on treadmill and 25 on a "Nustep", a machine that you sit on and "step" and "row" (arm motion) at the same time. Really doing pretty well with all of it and am getting stronger. Walking on my own to boot and need to do MORE of that... Blood sugars are doing good, I went on a "sliding scale" and it's working nicely.

Just an update for y'all...

 

 

 

 

:geezer:

 

Nothing new to report really except that I went to the Cardiologists back on the 16th and saw the Dr. that did the implant of the ICD and he said he didn't want to see me for another year... I did forget a couple of weeks ago to take my morning meds on Mon. and Thurs. and it really whipped my butt! I did about 10 min on the treadmill and my BP was so high it felt like my head was gonna explode...nurse says "let that be a lesson to you about how much your body is dependent on those medicines"..."yes ma'am". I haven't done that since!! It's been hotter than the "blue blazes" the last few days so cb is camping in the house with the A/C and behaving himself, I have been walking about 6:30 or 7am when it's cooler and avoiding the heat.

 

That's all for now...!

 

 

 

 

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Please don't forget to take your medicines again.

Make it the first thing you think of every morning :)

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Glad that you are okay Caintry, sucks to hear that this happened, but really glad you are okay. Had a friend have a heart attack earlier this year, and my aunt was the same, so not a good thing to happen. Stay safe!

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Working on it, but starting to have some issues of angina. Got an appt. with the cardiologist tomorrow to try and find out what's going on...

 

edit: glad to see you posting over here again too ShadowPredator!

 

 

 

 

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Small update...still having some issues of angina and have another appt. with Dr. scheduled for Sept. 2nd, maybe I'm pushing too hard, I don't know but we'll see.

Here's a shot of the implant, it's about the size of a Zippo cigarette lighter (right under that nice little scar):

 

vGWzuC.jpg

 

 

 

 

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You keep posting those sexy pictures and we're all gonna have our hearts skip a beat!

Might be getting the young ladies around here swooning a bit. :mrgreen:

 

Maybe that's your plan, huh, ol' boy? Then we can all hang out in your Dr.'s office on Sept. 2nd and you'll get all the chicks! :lol:

 

Not to worry, in our own way, we will be there with you. ;)

 

Now behave! :IG:

 

:) Y

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you grew a beard?

 

We know about you and nurses.......

 

Yes'm Miss Juliet, a beard...like it? Love my nurses, they make staying in the hospital more like home (as much as possible).

This little gal used to work at the nursing home whare my mama was when she passed...this is her "bad girl" shot...she's an RN and she's got those "betty davis eyes" >

 

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