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Ubuntu - Not Impressed

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Not that it will matter to anyone but I am not impressed with the default installation of Ubuntu 11.04 Been using it all evening and will be dumping it quick. Unity sucks IMO.

 

Over and out :)

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whats your usual distro of choice? for some reason i thought it was ubuntu.

 

:b33r:

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OpenSuse and Sabayon. I've installed every release of Ubuntu since it came out (4.10 Warty) but it's never really appealed to me or been on the system very long. I know its blasphemy to some folks. :)

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BLASPHEMY! How dare you defy the cult of Shuttleworth??!

 

Nah, that's the beauty of having a multiple choice question.. Pick your own flavor and use whatever you like :)

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You do not have to use Unity on 11.04. Either you're too lazy to change it to a more traditional GNOME environment or you hated Ubuntu before Unity was ever an option..

 

Use what you like and what works for you. I'll do the same.

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Either you're too lazy to change it to a more traditional GNOME environment or you hated Ubuntu before Unity was ever an option..

 

Go feck yourself.

 

Use what you like and what works for you. I'll do the same.

You sure it ok .... only a knob would make such idiotic remarks.

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Go feck yourself.

 

 

You sure it ok .... only a knob would make such idiotic remarks.

 

 

What the hell is your problem?

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There are blackbox, windowmaker, LXDE, XFCE, KDE, Gnome, Enlightenment, IceWM, fluxbox, and several others. They are all irrelevant as far as this thread is concerned, because it is about Unity aka "Ubuntu".

 

It is rude and childish to tell someone they are "lazy" or a hater for not using something other than what the thread is about. The default installation of Ubuntu ...........

 

I am certainly not a Gnome or Unity fan. In fact I think they are taking computing interfaces back to windows 3.1 like management.

 

I agree with Carlton, Unity sucks.

 

So doesn't Gnome in my humble opinion. So for me personally it wouldn't be a matter of "being lazy", but rather a matter of I don't want to go 25 years backwards in the way I use a personal computer. I hope things will improve, use all the horsepower my computer has, and uses the screen real estate to have and or do multiple things at once, with plenty options, to easily customize my desktiop, and to easily change the my interface works, looks, behaves, without having to resort to changing to a different different window manager.

 

Fear not folks, Ubuntu 95 will soon be released, and will be followed up with Ubuntu 95b, when that happens hold on because then Ubuntu 98, and Ubuntu 98 SE will follow.............................. Then incredible things will happen on the desktop, like the ability to have multiple winodws and tasks all being displayed on the same desktop :P

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kde on debian is amazing, though you must bust a few brain vanes and pop an eye socket to get it just the way you like it :geezer:

 

just a heads up :lol:

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There are blackbox, windowmaker, LXDE, XFCE, KDE, Gnome, Enlightenment, IceWM, fluxbox, and several others. They are all irrelevant as far as this thread is concerned, because it is about Unity aka "Ubuntu".

 

It is rude and childish to tell someone they are "lazy" or a hater for not using something other than what the thread is about. The default installation of Ubuntu ...........

 

I am certainly not a Gnome or Unity fan. In fact I think they are taking computing interfaces back to windows 3.1 like management.

 

I agree with Carlton, Unity sucks.

 

So doesn't Gnome in my humble opinion. So for me personally it wouldn't be a matter of "being lazy", but rather a matter of I don't want to go 25 years backwards in the way I use a personal computer. I hope things will improve, use all the horsepower my computer has, and uses the screen real estate to have and or do multiple things at once, with plenty options, to easily customize my desktiop, and to easily change the my interface works, looks, behaves, without having to resort to changing to a different different window manager.

 

Fear not folks, Ubuntu 95 will soon be released, and will be followed up with Ubuntu 95b, when that happens hold on because then Ubuntu 98, and Ubuntu 98 SE will follow.............................. Then incredible things will happen on the desktop, like the ability to have multiple winodws and tasks all being displayed on the same desktop :P

 

I don't see how his post (or this topic) is constructive. He has clearly stated that he hates Ubuntu and has done so for the past several years. Who cares? He doesn't explain why nor does he offer his input about how things could be improved. If you like Ubuntu but not Unity, there's several options available (including KDE or the more traditional GNOME). I use Ubuntu, and I don't agree with any of your criticisms or comparisons to Microsoft, but to each his own.

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If you would prefer I could be constructive like you, and rather than discuss the topic as it was presented "Default Ubuntu installation" I could start insulting people calling them lazy haters. I realize you somehow think that is more constructive, in a strange way :lol: I don't.

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If someone actually liked everything about Ubuntu except Unity and dumped the distro just because of that, then I would question their determination and motivation as it's pretty painless to get things customized to your liking. Not that it matters, he already stated he hated it for the past several years. I look forward to seeing the same thread in 6 months.

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If you would prefer I could be constructive like you, and rather than discuss the topic as it was presented "Default Ubuntu installation" I could start insulting people calling them lazy haters. I realize you somehow think that is more constructive, in a strange way :lol: I don't.

 

sure, like Carlton's response was not insulting and completely constructive and mature? He could have responded like an adult by explaining his reasons or chose to ignore and not respond. However as a thread topic there is nothing constructive about saying "Unity sucks"... which is not a discussion topic, it is a complaint topic. The OP made it very clear in the first post he did not wish to be pro active in changing Ubuntu's default install and chose to remove it, which is perfectly fine, it is what it is.

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i have seen thousands of threads like these and this one is no different, it ads to the never ending statistics, the many dislikes outweigh the approvals.

 

constructive criticism is a good thing when directed towards conanical, we as the community must direct it, but not at each other, all the energy wasted doing so.

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Soulfly:

However as a thread topic there is nothing constructive about saying "Unity sucks"

please check the topic title once again which says Ubuntu not impressed. My comment about Unity was at the end of the post. Not that it matters. Your new here and I hope you enjoy reading the posts. Adam has made a few comments in threads I started that "I thought" were neither well thought out or explained in any way.

 

Adam: I haven't mentioned hating Ubuntu anywhere. What I said is "I've installed every release of Ubuntu since it came out (4.10 Warty) but it's never really appealed to me" That's a long way from hate in my book. To post publicly that someone must be lazy when all that's required to make a change is right click - and choose Ubuntu classic - at the login screen shows a lack of respect for other people.

 

Contrary to hating Ubuntu, I might be a Ubuntu user if they had a good solid KDE version. I very much like that they have shipped me packs of dvd's to distribute ever since Warty. I don't think they're doing it anymore. As a result, I'm sure some Windows users are at least exploring Linux and the lunchroom pc's at my work are running Ubuntu and openSUSE.

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I might be a Ubuntu user if they had a good solid KDE version.

 

 

it's a good solid version, kde 4.6.2, the problem is it's on a cd and is the base system lacking many extras, everything from power management to extra context menus.

 

you can achieve pretty much what you've experienced in opensuse with kde minus system branding, which i think ads a special touch.

 

unity i believe is a result of the compact disc, i also believe that mark wants to use lightweight desktops, and apps to squeeze more in the cd.

 

simply said, it's a bad choice to continue with a cd, i think mark is nuts and he needs to rethink some things instead of limiting functions and features found in de's.

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No you can not get nearly as good a KDE desktop with Kubuntu as openSuSE. Not even close in my experiences.

 

You can get a "generic" KDE experience slapped on top of a kernel specifically designed to run a certain GUI. the KDE experience in Kubuntu is very buggy, very generic and is lacking the outstanding integration, and utilities openSUSE and othe KDE based distributions that take time and a lot of effort to provide the absolute best experience possible. Kubuntu just doesn't come close to distributions that put a lot of time and effort into all the Window managers.

 

Kubuntu has a disjointed, slapped together feel to it.

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your rite, it isn't as good, but it is disjointed at the beginning, if you've built it, it'll be simply kde without the things you are familiar with that opensuse has worked hard at to accomplish, for example kde looks better in opensuse, it's faster as well and the integration is impeccable.

 

still doesn't change the fact that kde kubuntu is a buggy base lacking many features, so defaults stink, it needs built upon to have a decent experience.

 

the cd is the problem for any de on that os.

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Are you so lazy that you can't install a distribution and have a look at the differences in how well a Window manager is integrated with the kernel, utilities, and software?

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I feel about as comfortable and familiar with the Linux Forum as I would feel if I pulled into a gas station in South Central LA needing service, or had to ask for directions at a country store in a coal mining outback of Tennessee with a few locals eying me from behind whatever they were whitling and spitting whatever they were chewing.

 

Sorry. I just don't know the territory, the language, nor the culture. It's the wild west to me.

 

But I do recognize some of the words.

And a few of them didn't need to be used, nor repeated in this Thread.

 

Now ya'll might be fine and comfy with the goings-on and used to each other, but if not....

 

One way to stop things from escalating is as follows.

 

If someone says something offensive, and then someone else says a 2nd offensive thing in retort, the first person will almost inevitably feel compelled to say a 3rd offensive thing... and we're off to the races.

 

Now to stop that cycle is simple, but requires awareness and will-power.

All you have to do is "not say" that second thing, and the cycle stops because the other doesn't feel compelled to say the third.

 

If you use the above strategy, there's no "short-term satisfaction" that you might have gotten by delivering a snappy come-back, but long-term you may enjoy having fewer barbs being thrown around in your Threads.

 

Just thought I'd mention that, because I do enjoy visiting, and wouldn't want to arrive when you already had guns and knives pulled and in action.

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Are you so lazy that you can't install a distribution and have a look at the differences in how well a Window manager is integrated with the kernel, utilities, and software?

 

I use Ubuntu, GNOME as my environment. It seems to work for me, but apparently it's not tightly integrated. I am just curious to see exactly what you mean and what is not integrated on my computer...

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I didn't say anything about gnome not being tightly integrated.

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Geez, is this how this forum usually is? Childish name calling and tons of negativity?

 

Anyway, after tweaking unity and using it for a couple hours, I have to say I like it. I don't see what all the fuss is about. I can be very productive with it, and it runs perfectly. What's wrong with that?

 

You won't hear me whining and crying about DE's, because I have a choice. Whining just makes people look childish and entitled. Anyway, hope to have some good banter with some of the more reasonable and mature posters here.

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Geez, is this how this forum usually is? Childish name calling and tons of negativity?

 

unfortunately yes, if you dare to mention ubuntu, gnome or unity....then you can expect exactly that.

 

welcome just the same wolfen! :)

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