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I burned the BETA2 CD last week but didn't have time to install...should just be able to update that to get to the stable release right? I plan on using Ubuntu as Kubuntu is slower right now for me.

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i'd go with a fresh install instead of the upgrade....just in case. i have tried the upgrade route a few times, sometimes it worked fine....other times it was nothing but problems. even the upgrades that went well, were eventually replaced by a nice, shiny new install.

 

if you have the separate /home partition already....then a fresh install is a snap anyways and probably quicker then the upgrade.

 

i haven't bothered with cd/dvds lately either.... just been using one of my flash drives as a "live" disc and installing from there. works great and is a faster installation. if you have a 1gb or larger flash drive laying around, download the final release .iso and use ubuntu's usb/startup disc creator to make the "live" cd on it. :tup:

 

...save the cds for something you are going to use more then once or twice. :geezer:

 

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It's not really an upgrade, the final release is just updates over the BETA release, right? I'm just looking for an excuse not to use another disc.

 

As for the /home....can I keep that in place even though I'm switching the flavor?

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It's not really an upgrade, the final release is just updates over the BETA release, right? I'm just looking for an excuse not to use another disc.

 

yeah, sorry i was thinking you were just upgrading your present installation to 10.04. if you install the beta2 and upgrade after install (may be a lot)...that should be fine.

 

and carrying over your /home from kubuntu to ubuntu should also work out fine. :tup:

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Thanks JackeL. I deleted the partitions and installed fresh when I moved from Ubuntu to Kubuntu, I did not think it would work. This will hopefully save me some time.

 

What I wonder though is, if you keep the /home (I set the separate partitions up, but I've never taken advantage of them yet) it keeps the themes/documents/etc. correct? Wouldn't that present a problem since it's KDE switching to GNOME and obviously a different theme manager?

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don't think it matters adam. gnome (ubuntu) will be looking into the .gnome2, .gconf, etc. folders for its settings (themes, wallpapers, fonts and so on). when you install ubuntu beta2, it will set up default ones since you do not have gnome installed on there yet.

 

all your kde settings will still be stored in the .kde folders and such, where they should not interfere with gnome.

 

other folders like Documents, Downloads, Music, Videos....will be the same in either environment.

 

i could be wrong...but i think you will be fine.

 

and if you ever decide to install the kubuntu-desktop package inside your ubuntu installation (i always do and just did about a 1/2 hour ago :) )....i bet the first time you log into kde, you will see all your old settings. ;)

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I don't install the other environment because, at least when I tired, it made a mell of a hess out of the drop down menus. However, I will install Ubuntu and leave the /home and report back the results...it might be a week before I get to it though.

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Hi.

 

I'm downloading this new Ubuntu from Ubuntu . com it is overwriting a copy from Ubuntu . co / desktop / get - Ubuntu / download having followed the instruction from the

 

second link and the Burning software ( InfraRecorder which I also downloaded & installed ) I have now burned a CD copy Woo Hoo so far so good...

 

 

Posted Image

 

As you can see above something is on the CD with Autorun... Which make a welcome change from all the blank cd's I have Posted Image from previous attempts years ago.

 

Right now my Posted Image problems start.

 

Old PC with a secondhand test working hard drive only 20G but hopefully this is enough until I can source a couple of news one, funds permitting.

The old hard drive which had windows ME on when it was originally bought, had it up-dated to Windows XP Pro' at a local shop now closed.

The master drive has been removed because it makes a clock like tick tock sound and refuses to boot.

 

I sent for a long time ago by Snail Mail ( As I couldn't for the life of me then, burn a ISO CD ) a copy of Ubuntu v6.06 that runs ok,

until you run the up-dates it asks you to do to keep it running with better security? what ever.

 

From the above picture I seemed to have worked out were I was going wrong as I now have the CD above.

 

Placing it in the tray & pressing Re-Boot as my PC is set to boot from Floppy, CD then Hard Drive by default.

I get the usual start screen up to the point where it says Booting from CD and it just sits there looking at then goes into;

Auto to the Old Version Ubuntu 6.06, each time the same / similar thing happens.

I've tried swapping the cd's from the old to the new, but it refuse to spit the old one out until it has shut itself down.

Then it asks to re-boot then the whole thing starts again.

 

Where am I going wrong... Easy tigers I'm still a prime ID 10 T PC user Posted Image

 

What is on the screen now, there was loads more all with [ ok ]

 

* PCMCIA not present

* Loading manual drivers... [ ok ]

* Checking root file [ ok ]

 

there was a load more but the screen has just gone black, but the hard drive light is still flickering from lit to off, then on again indicating some might still be happening.

 

Um-mmm now it has Re-Booted, so it looks like the whole process will start again.

 

Regards

El Tel

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A little bit about your hardware would be helpful.

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Hi

 

Now, now Bruce

 

A little bit about your hardware would be helpful.

How am I going to get this information, when I can't seem to interrogate my PC. or did you mean take components out and read some labels Posted Image

 

My last TechExpress RM1M8WTQGWBS88PP is outdated which was related to the PC before it crashed.

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I suspect the old nvidia card, and the very small amount of memory you have to be suspect.

 

You could try booting with the option nomodeset

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Hi JackeL

 

I have 512MB

 

I have also posted above about the same time as you a link to the last TechExpress having just signed in and dragged the last one relating to the PC before it crashed.

 

Regards

El Tel

 

Edit

 

Now JackeL post has gone? Posted Image

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Hi JackeL

 

I have 512MB

 

I have also posted above about the same time as you a link to the last TechExpress having just signed in and dragged the last one relating to the PC before it crashed.

 

Regards

El Tel

 

oops, sorry i deleted my ram question when i saw you had beat me to the punch with your tech express link. :blushing:

 

i suspect something wrong with the disc/burn as the computer does not seem to begin to boot from it. is this a 32bit disc or 64bit version?

 

You could try booting with the option nomodeset

bruce, it doesn't seem like its getting to the point of being able to choose any of the boot options. he should at least see some sort of ubuntu logo from the disc before he can press "f6" for more boot options. sounds to me like its not seeing the disc at all, and booting right into the old version of ubuntu that was installed on the drive.

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El Tel, do you see any sort of purple-ish/maroon colored screen with some sort of ubuntu logo at the bottom, right after it says "booting from cd"?

 

if not, then there may be something wrong with the disc or a bad burn. it could also be the drive on that old computer simply not recognizing the media you are using.

 

do you have another (newer) computer to try the cd in? place it in another computers drive and try to boot from it....you can at least rule out a few possibilities that way. :shrug:

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Hi

 

If I eject the CD I have about 5 seconds, good game, good game to read what it says. After 3 re-boots, I managed to read it, as I'm a slow reader it.

It Said press "Esc" which I have managed to do this time and there is a Menu with

 

GNU GRUB version 0.97 (639K lower / 52300K upper memory)

 

In the box

 

Unbuntu, kernel 2.6.15-55-386 this one is highlighted

Unbuntu, kernel 2.6.15-55-386 (recovery mode)

Unbuntu, kernel 2.6.15-55-386

Unbuntu, kernel 2.6.15-55-386 (recovery mode)

Unbuntu, memtest86+

 

Out the box and below is

 

Use the up & down keys to select which entry is highlighted.

Press enter to boot the selected OS, 'e' to edit the

commands before booting, or 'c' for a command-line

 

Now this is where the PC is right now

 

This LapTop is 64bit but I chose the 32 bit when asked at download?

 

Regards

El Tel

 

PS

 

I've just had an E-Mail while typing this, saying I have another reply but until I submit this one I will not know what has been said. Posted Image

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Thats the old ubuntu installation.

 

You need to reburn the disk you downloaded.

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Hi JackeL

 

El Tel, do you see any sort of purple-ish/maroon colored screen with some sort of ubuntu logo at the bottom, right after it says "booting from cd"?

 

if not, then there may be something wrong with the disc or a bad burn. it could also be the drive on that old computer simply not recognizing the media you are using.

 

do you have another (newer) computer to try the cd in? place it in another computers drive and try to boot from it....you can at least rule out a few possibilities that way. Posted Image

As is right now as last post above sitting there waiting for an input.

 

 

No I see no purple/maroon screen with the new CD I burned. Yet when I use the CD sent by Ubuntu via snail mail it boots up just fine and installs ok but doesn't like the up-date bit over the the Internet, indicating although it is only a 20G hard drive with 512MB of ram, that side seems to be ok... I can live with the fact the CD I have burned could be the problem, as burning CD's is not something I had much luck with, in the past.

 

While the PC is as stated in my last post waiting for an input could I press 'c' (it also opened the tray with my new copy) for the command line and type something in there after or before closing the tray if it is just a bad burn CD not recognising the boot bit thing'y.

 

Regards

El Tel

 

Edit

 

PS

 

Apart from what is inside the tower unit, the only thing's connect are the mouse and keyboard, everything else disconnected IE no printer, scanner etc.

 

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El Tel, its gotta be the cd or the cd drive....either try the cd in another computer and attempt to boot from it, or burn another cd (hate to see you waste them but don't know what else to suggest) and try that.

 

the old version won't update any more because it is not supported any longer (no support = no updates)....normal ubuntu releases are supported for only 18 months, while LTS (long term support) releases are supported for 3 years.

 

i believe version 6.06 was an LTS release, but had reached its "end of life" (no more support) as of june of last year ('09).

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Hi

 

Thats sounds logical.

 

I thought what the heck, I can't do anymore damage Posted Image I hit 'c'

 

Which gave me a list to choose from, I saw boot along with loads of other, I typed it in and pressed enter, reply kernel not loaded, as I saw kernel; I typed that in see I'll clutch at any straws. Yes you guessed none worked.

 

So just before I left it, I pressed Re-Start one last time, and this time it booted as far as, top left hand corner 8042809F two Icons at the bottom centre.

The left looks like a keyboard next = then they is a man in a circle, about 5 or so seconds later error reading boot CD ( Reboot)

Now I do see a maroon screen.

 

Looks like I will have to burn another copy. Shish Kebab and I thought I'd worked this ISO burning out Posted Image

 

Regards

El Tel

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El Tel, try using IMGBurn or CD Burner XP. They both are pretty much fool proof. :tup:

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Hi

 

El Tel, try using IMGBurn or CD Burner XP. They both are pretty much fool proof. Posted Image

I had that on my old PC before it crashed Posted Image

 

 

Just in case it asks me, this laptop is 64bit after burning the target tower PC is 32bit, will it make any difference if I change to default download location for IMGBurn on this laptop or just leave it as is; what ever is set?

 

The reason I ask this when I downloaded InfraRecorder, I changed the default location from Program Files (x86) to the plain Program Files folder?

 

Could that be where I was going wrong.

 

Regards

El Tel

 

Edit

 

PS

 

I mean when I install it, as it default to a download folder under user El Tel on this silly Vista Home LapTop... Mind you, I better not mock it at least its working Posted Image

Edited by El Tel

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it shouldn't make any difference where the burning program or the file you are burning are located.

 

important part is to make sure you burn the cd as an .iso or "image" file....not as a normal, data cd.

 

and i would suggest you stick with the 32 bit.

 

good luck.

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