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Hi, Wondering if anyone here could help me out. My old PC has died, and I've decided to get a new one. I've done some research and have opted to purchase from either cyberpowersystem.co.uk or cougar-extreme.co.uk My budget is £750 (including monitor)

 

However, i have a question. I've narrowed down the processors to two, the Intel i5 750 and the Quad Q9650. Is it worth spending more on the i5? Or should i stick with the Q9650 and invest in a better graphics card?

 

As for graphics cards, i am interested in the ATI Radeon 4870 and Nvidia GTX260. The Radeon 4890 seems a bit too expensive.

 

The types of games i want to play are Medieval Total War, Empire Total War, Mass Effect, Doom 3. Also if possible on medium settings, Crysis, Far Cry 2 and Fallout 3. The PC would also be used for watching and editing HD content.

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The i5 is not future proof, really not sure what intel were thinking about.

 

I'd go with Kram and recomend the i7 920, more punch and excellent reviews. Just bought one myself!!

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Thanks for the replies, the i7 920 costs too much on cougar-extreme, however it may be possible to configure a system with it on cyberpower.

 

Cougar-extreme has many positive reviews on PC advisor, there are mixed reviews for cyberpower when searching on Google.

 

I'll post a few configurations from both sites, and wait for feedback, as i am unsure what PSU and motherboard to choose from.

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I've decided to purchase from cougar-extreme.co.uk as the site has received many positive reviews.

 

Requirements: The types of games i want to play are Medieval Total War, Empire Total War, Mass Effect, Doom 3. Also if possible on medium settings, Crysis, Far Cry 2 and Fallout 3. The PC would also be used for watching and editing HD content. I am going to install Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit, the monitor will be purchased from another site.

 

£652 – cougar extreme

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.0 Ghz 12Mb Cache,

4Gb Corsair Memory DDR2 800 (2 x 2gb),

500GB SATA Hard Drive,

QCE - MSI P43 NEO F - 1600FSB DDR2 1066x4 P43 chipset,

896Mb GTX260 PCI Express Nvidia DDR DVI,

CiT 500W Black Edition PSU, DVD+/- RW - 20X (pioneer 116DBK),

Elite 330 Black Midi Case Window No PSU RC-330K-KWPC-GP

DVD+/- RW - 20X (pioneer 116DBK),

No monitor and OS

 

 

£608- cougar extreme

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.0 Ghz 12Mb Cache,

Manufacturer Supplied Cooler,

4Gb Corsair Memory DDR2 800 (2 x 2gb),

500GB SATA Hard Drive, , ,

QCE - MSI P43 NEO F - 1600FSB DDR2 1066x4 P43 chipset,

ATI 4850 1024MB PCI Express DDR DVI,

Elite 330 Black Midi Case Window No PSU RC-330K-KWPC-GP,

CiT 500W Black Edition PSU,

DVD+/- RW - 20X (pioneer 116DBK),

No monitor and OS

 

 

£675 – cougar extreme

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.0 Ghz 12Mb Cache,

Manufacturer Supplied Cooler,

4GB Corsair Memory DDR3 1333 (2 x 2gb),

1000GB SATA Hard Drive,

QCE - P43Twins1600 - 2000FSB DDR3 DDR2 1333x4 P43 CHIPSET,

ATI 4870 1024MB PCI Express DDR DVI,

CiT 500W Black Edition PSU,

Elite 334 Black Midi Case No Psu RC-334-KKN1-GP,

DVD+/- RW - 20X (pioneer 116DBK),

No monitor and OS

 

NOTE: I am not sure which motherboard to choose from, as well as the types of RAM.

 

DDR2

4Gb Corsair Memory DDR2 800 (2 x 2gb)

4Gb Corsair Memory DDR2 1066 (2x2Gb)

4GB Kingston DDR2 800 (2 x 2gb)

 

DDR3

4GB Corsair Memory DDR3 1333 (2 x 2gb)

4GB Corsair Memory DDR3 1600 (2 x 2gb)

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Worth every penny more.

 

£745.36

Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz 8Mb Cache, Manufacturer Supplied Cooler,

3Gb DDR3 CORSAIR Triple Channel 1333,

500GB SATA Hard Drive

I7 - MSI X58 Pro SLI/X-fire 6400FSB DDR3 2000 x6 X58 chipset,

896Mb GTX260 PCI Express Nvidia DDR DVI,

Elite 330 Black Silver Midi Case No Psu RC-330-KKN1-GP,

CiT 700W Black Edition PSU,

DVD+/- RW - 20X (pioneer 116DBK),

No Operating System

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With any pair out of the hardware you listed they will all rock the games you listed.

 

If you want to be the most future proof, i'd say i7.

Any video card will do, we won't see a jump from the PCIe bus for years to come methinks, and you can just upgrade as you see fit.

The only thing that worries me is those power supplies, they look a little sketchy.

 

As for the ram, get the DDR3 1333, unless your planning on overclocking, then grab the 1600.

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The £745 system you have mentioned is way over my budget, bear in mind i also want to get a monitor for £100.

 

To porksandwich what seems to be "odd" with the PSU? Are the brands not reliable?

 

I have also been recommended to Overclockers by one of my friends. I have found this system: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....444&subcat=

 

Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 LGA775 'Yorkfield' 2.66GHz Overclocked to 3.20GHz!

Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3LR Intel P45 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard

Corsair XMS2 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 PC2-8500C5 TwinX Dual Channel

ATI Radeon 4870 1024mb

LG GH22NS30 22x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black)

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM

Akasa AK-967 Nero Direct Contact Heatpipe CPU Cooler

OCZ ModXStream Pro 700w Silent SLI Ready ATX2 Modular Power Supply

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound professionally hand installed by our technicians

Coolermaster Elite 335 Case

1yr Onsite Collect & Return Warranty

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I guess not so much sketchy, but I have never heard of this brand "CiT".

I like to research all the companies and whatnot and I guess I'll look into these guys now too.

 

From what I see in a google search, they are not very highly rated, and if I was about to drop over 1200 dollars on some hardware, i'd make sure a damn good PSU was running it.

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The £745 system you have mentioned is way over my budget, bear in mind i also want to get a monitor for £100.

 

To porksandwich what seems to be "odd" with the PSU? Are the brands not reliable?

 

I have also been recommended to Overclockers by one of my friends. I have found this system: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....444&subcat=

 

Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 LGA775 'Yorkfield' 2.66GHz Overclocked to 3.20GHz!

Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3LR Intel P45 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard

Corsair XMS2 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 PC2-8500C5 TwinX Dual Channel

ATI Radeon 4870 1024mb

LG GH22NS30 22x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black)

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM

Akasa AK-967 Nero Direct Contact Heatpipe CPU Cooler

OCZ ModXStream Pro 700w Silent SLI Ready ATX2 Modular Power Supply

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound professionally hand installed by our technicians

Coolermaster Elite 335 Case

1yr Onsite Collect & Return Warranty

 

The OCZ PSU that you mentioned here should be ample. That's a pretty nice setup if it's within your price range.

 

 

:geezer:

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The OCZ PSU that you mentioned here should be ample. That's a pretty nice setup if it's within your price range.

:geezer:

 

As C_B said.. looks good.. Although I would change few things..

 

CPU cooler: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....amp;subcat=1395

 

HDD: WD 640 GB.. On sale.. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....&subcat=940

 

Thermal Paste.. MX-2.. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....7&subcat=27

 

Especially the hard drive is a better one (little faster), and that cpu cooler would be far better than the Akasa mentioned..

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Thanks for the feedback, i wouldn't know how to build a PC or fit parts in. This would be a big risk for me, that's why I've opted to buy one that is already designed. I want to be as thorough as possible in the decision making process and really appreciate the input i have been given so far on this site :)

 

Below are a few changed i made, a slightly lower CPU, new cooler, and a new PSU. I am going to phone up Cougar Extreme tommorow, to see if they offer more brands of CPU.

 

Cougar-Extreme http://www.cougar-extreme.co.uk/computer_s...Intel_4870.html

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83 Ghz 12Mb Cache,

Zalman CNPS7000C-ALCU heatsink,

4Gb Corsair Memory DDR2 800 (2 x 2gb),

500GB SATA Hard Drive,

AM3 Asus M4N78-SE - DDR2 1066x2 720d chipset,

ATI 4870 1024MB PCI Express DDR DVI,

Elite 330 Black Midi Case Window No PSU RC-330K-KWPC-GP,

Cooler Master 500W PSU,

DVD+/- RW - 20X (pioneer 116DBK),

No Floppy Disk Drive, Integrated Sound Card, Intergrated Monitor Speakers, No printer,

No Operating System

 

For the PSU i can choose from:

  • Powercool 650W High Efficiency Black PSU
  • Powercool 850W High Efficiency Black PSU
  • Cooler Master 450W PSU
  • Cooler Master 500W PSU
  • Lian Li Maxima Force 470W PSU
As for the motherboard i can select a different one with a slight increase in price:
  • AM3 - Asus M4A78-VM - DDR2 1200x2 780G HDMI chipset
  • AM3 - Asus M4A78-EM - DDR2 1200x4 780G HDMI chipset
  • QCE - GA-EP31-DS3L - 1600FSB DDR2 1066x4 P31 chipset
  • QCE - ASUS P5QL-SE - 1600FSB DDR2 1066x4 P43 chipset
  • QCE - MSI P43 NEO F - 1600FSB DDR2 1066x4 P43 chipset
  • QCE - ASUS P5QL PRO - 1600FSB DDR2 1066x4 P43 chipset
  • QCE - ASUS P5QL - 1600FSB DDR2 1066x4 P43 chipset
On the other hand i have also found this PC:

 

Cube 247 http://www.cube247.co.uk/?customise=26

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium

Intel Core 4 Quad Q9550 Processor

4096MB Corsair DDR II Memory

1000GB SATA II Seagate Ultra Fast Hard Disk Space

NEC 7200 Multi Format DVD/CD ReWriter

ATI Radeon 4870 Performance Graphics

5.1 High Definition Surround Sound

Intel Deluxe Motherboard

Multi Format Memory Card Reader

10/100 Ethernet LAN

12 x USB2 Ports

12 Month Classic Warranty

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I'ma vote for this one:

Cougar-Extreme http://www.cougar-extreme.co.uk/computer_s...Intel_4870.html

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83 Ghz 12Mb Cache,

Zalman CNPS7000C-ALCU heatsink,

4Gb Corsair Memory DDR2 800 (2 x 2gb),

500GB SATA Hard Drive,

AM3 Asus M4N78-SE - DDR2 1066x2 720d chipset,

ATI 4870 1024MB PCI Express DDR DVI,

Elite 330 Black Midi Case Window No PSU RC-330K-KWPC-GP,

Cooler Master 500W PSU,

DVD+/- RW - 20X (pioneer 116DBK),

No Floppy Disk Drive, Integrated Sound Card, Intergrated Monitor Speakers, No printer,

No Operating System

 

but I'd upgrade the hard drive to 1Tb, go with the 650W PSU, and you should be good.

 

 

Just My Opinion

 

 

:geezer:

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Thanks for the replies, i'm going with the QCE - ASUS P5QL PRO, the xfire one costs too much. Also have opted for the Radeon 4890.

 

Thanks for all the help, really appreciate the input I've been given. :cheers:

 

Just one last thing, any quick reccomendations on a monitor brand make? I've been told that Viewsonic are worth investing in, and that Samsung ones have a poor build quality...

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I have a samsung and an acer monitor and both have served me well. I think a monitor is something you have to see in action to appreciate. What I did was, define a price range and went down to Fry's Electronics(big retailer near me) and look at all the monitors in that price range. I just chose the one that looked the best to me. I would recommend staying with a manufacturer that you recognize and generally hear good things about though.

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