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A certain incident that involved "street racing" has rekindled an awareness for needing a drag strip in our county

 

http://www.kolnkgin.com/news/headlines/50904922.html

Watch the video too. Andy is a good friend of mine, as is Mike (who was not on the video, but was the other ticketed driver)

 

Now, this is not to condone street racing, but rather to give us an outlet to which we can enjoy our hobby legally. For those of you who aren't aware, a gentleman by the name of Greg Sanford was willing to foot the entire bill to have a dragstrip put in a small town just outside of lincoln. He had the land bought and everything. Only needed approval to have a motorsports complex built specifically. After a few hearings (one of which our own local forum flooded with members to show for support), ultimately it was shot down. Not only do I and many of my fellow peers/gearheads disagree with this decision, but we will not give up on trying.

 

I created this facebook group to help raise awareness again that there is tons of support to have a dragstrip built. I understand that none of you will probably be local or effect you in any way, but I'm sure some of you pitsters can understand our plea for something that many of us find necessary to have. There are a lot of benefits to having this drag strip built, one of the biggest being money pumped into our city/county/state.

 

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#...id=116705279461

 

Feel free to voice your opinions or stories!

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Any old abandoned air strips that can be converted to a drag strip? Maybe owners might be willing to allow you to use it if you and the others chip in on insurance and upgrades to make it happen. Just a thought, as thats what we did way back in the 60's. But ours was a paved road to an abonded quarry.

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Any old abandoned air strips that can be converted to a drag strip? Maybe owners might be willing to allow you to use it if you and the others chip in on insurance and upgrades to make it happen. Just a thought, as thats what we did way back in the 60's. But ours was a paved road to an abonded quarry.

 

 

I can't remember why, but there was some reasoning as to why we couldn't do this. The land picked out for our drag strip site was located off an interstate with very little in the way of nearby housing. The biggest deal apparently was it being next to a cemetery. A cemetery that had literally, 1 to 2 processions PER YEAR.

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i dont see why a drag strip would be such a hard decision to make. i remember back in highschool my and a buddy of mine would get together with about 20-30 other people on a friday around midnight alot had graduated a few years ahead of us, but they were our friends, and then someone would find a place and everyone would go and we watch as others raced there nicer cars :lol:

 

it was alot of fun just being around friends and being around something we all enjoyed. and i remember a guy with a police scanner, and always got us out of there before the law showed up. always figured if only we had a drag strip then things would have been so much better.

 

goodluck and hope you guys get the track :tup:

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Thunder good luck and dont give up trying. It is not however sufficient just to get your friends on side. To be successful in your efforts you need to get your objectors on side so that they withdraw their objections.

There have to be some benefits from your plans so sell these benefits harder.

Think about how you can get your opponents on side. Go back to the cemetry people and ask them what you can do for them.

Even if it means cutting the grass occasionally or cleaning up the odd grave site, these things can be offered or negotiated.

Win your enemies over, dont try to fight them. It also helps hugely to get a local politician on side, show him/her the possible benefits to the area. Above all be persistant, it pays off.

Your efforts to keep drag racing off the streets could save lives, capitalise on that fact.

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You have to tell the city what they need to hear, increased tax revenues from a drag strip, that can change their attitudes, of course you'll need to do a lot of work and show some figures and graphs

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Around here, they have race tracks and drag strips for cars and ones for dirt bikes etc. You can qualify for races on the weekends. Sometimes they have Mustang day, corvette day, etc and people come from all around and sit on lawn chairs to watch.

 

Perhaps you should convince Lincoln to build one because it can bring in some big revenue and keep the racers off the streets.

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You have to tell the city what they need to hear, increased tax revenues from a drag strip, that can change their attitudes, of course you'll need to do a lot of work and show some figures and graphs

 

This is the most frustrating part of all... there were studies done at the University of Nebraska showing that these type of venues do bring in a good chunk of dollars to the cities that harbor them. Not just the city, but all of the businesses surrounding (restaurants, hotels, gas stations, etc) Also did sound studies and showed that sound would be negligible to the farm houses in the area due to the way the track would be built. This apparently did not matter

 

There are some very bullheaded people that are unfortunately in a position of power that is not letting this go through. We are going to continue to push this though and on that facebook group alone I have nearly 1200 people join since Wednesday with several thousand more waiting in invites.

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IMO have a all the people that would use it on a regular basis show up to meeting.

 

Also, I say have the local businesses and locals around the track give their approval.

 

It is a bit odd that they would shut it out since it will save lives and keep kids from doing it on the street illegally AND its great entertainment. Its a BUSINESS that the city can capitalize from.

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IMO have a all the people that would use it on a regular basis show up to meeting.

 

Also, I say have the local businesses and locals around the track give their approval.

 

It is a bit odd that they would shut it out since it will save lives and keep kids from doing it on the street illegally AND its great entertainment. Its a BUSINESS that the city can capitalize from.

 

 

We did this, we packed the city council meeting room and outside into the hallways... easily 150 supporters vs the half filled opposition (maybe 20 or so showed). No dice. There are running polls on the news website that show a 90/10 split in favor of a dragstrip.

 

I'm not getting my hopes too terribly up, but with the current economic state and the fact that Lincoln lost the State Fair (more money leaving the city, go figure), this could be the best chance to capitalize on a track.

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The big thing you need to consider is liability. None of your opposition will change their minds if you can't show them you have a solution for potential liabity issues.

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The big thing you need to consider is liability. None of your opposition will change their minds if you can't show them you have a solution for potential liabity issues.

 

that is one of the basics of the drag strip... theres no way there would be one without coverage. The problem with the opposition is this noise issue, they will not listen to scientific study.

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Guess all I can say is head over to Pacific Junction and give them the business. Let me know if you do... Ive never been to the track/strip they have there. It looks awesome from the road.

 

Nebraska is so wacked and Western Iowa is just reaping the benefits from it DAILY.

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Just a thought

 

It could be that the powers that be aren't listening to those that want a drag

strip, because by going out and racing on public streets and comments

like those in the clip sound an awful lot like, "Screw you we are going to

race on public streets until we get a track"

 

I hardly think that breaking the law is the way to go

 

Bear

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Just a thought

 

It could be that the powers that be aren't listening to those that want a drag

strip, because by going out and racing on public streets and comments

like those in the clip sound an awful lot like, "Screw you we are going to

race on public streets until we get a track"

 

I hardly think that breaking the law is the way to go

 

Bear

 

This has been addressed recently. One of our members on our local forum emailed Police Chief Tom Casady and received a very decent email back. Heres what he sent us

 

Paul:

 

Thank you for being one of the few people on the starcityracing forums

not calling me "elderly," "senile," a liar, or a selection of profane

names I won't repeat. Other than inadvertently referring to him as

"Miller" rather than "Campbell" (I have a friend named Andy Miller),

the information I provided in my blog was accurate and directly from

his Nebraska driver's history abstract. I'm sorry that in my senility

I grabbed the wrong last name out of the memory bank.

 

If drag strip proponents want allies, is best not to be offensive, and

probably wise to consider that a guy who writes a popular personal blog

on his own time at 5:00 AM probably knows how to read other blogs and

forums as well, and devotes a little weekend and early morning time to

doing so.

 

I appreciate the loyalty obvious in Mr. Campbell's friends' support and

comments. That's a nice thing. It need not be at my expense. Despite

the fact that he had a heavy foot that led to his first suspension,

continued to drive during that suspension resulting in his next

suspensions, got crosswise with insurance leading to another (short)

suspension, and neglected to pay several past tickets leading to

several withdrawals, I don't doubt that he is a nice guy. Probably

wasn't real wise to put me in the position of having to respond to the

virtual dare that he broadcast on 10/11. Probably wasn't real wise for

me to say anything at all.

 

I've followed the drag strip issue fairly closely, and I believe that a

track has some economic potential. I don't know how much. The economy

is in the toilet. I think it would probably be highly unlikely that

anyone will find the financing to build a drag strip in the next

decade, and that has nothing to do with noise, zoning, or

government--it's strictly economic. This has got to be a huge capital

outlay, requiring some major lending and a rock solid business plan

that would convince a bank to underwrite it.

 

Nevertheless, if someone can pull it off, I can easily see a drag strip

being a popular venue that would generate lots of economic activity.

Motor sports remain very popular, and I think there is good evidence

that Lincoln has a healthy base of aficionados and spectators. Whether

that lasts long enough to make a large capital investment practical or

not is something of a question, in my mind. The price of gas is

eventually going to soar again, as the world economy inevitably

rebounds, and China continues to grow into a huge consumer of refined

petroleum.

 

My only concern as police chief is that I don't want a motor sports

facility to become a headache for my officers. If it were near Kramer

or Davey, any problems belong to the Sheriff. If it is in or at the

edge of the City, my officers will be the ones fielding the noise

complaints. It is ridiculous to assert that there won't be noise

problems. There have always been noise issues associated with racing,

and there are plenty of people around Lincoln--including police

officers--who recall the complaints when Midwest Speedway operated at

27th and Superior Streets. Racing is loud. We all know that--it's part

of the attraction. Berms, distance, and foliage can help, but I can

hear the tractor pulls at State Fair Park from my deck 7 miles away

when it's calm, and everyone knows that, too. The argument to be made

is that the noise will be minimized as best it can be, will affect few

people seriously, and any minor annoyance is offset by the economic

gain.

 

I think the argument that a track would curtail street racing and thus

contribute to safety is very weak. I don't buy it personally. Lots of

wannabes who will never have the discipline or cash to participate in

organized racing will still want to strut. The rubber on public roads

near other motor sports facilities is pretty obvious. Do you think the

youtubes of Lincoln street racing will convince people that street

racers will all follow the rules and confine their races and burnouts

to the track? You won't be able to reel all that footage back in, and

if pressed, I'll have to point that out.

 

The t-shirt design is pretty cool, but surreptitious filming of street

races, rallies, name calling, and t-shirts accomplish little (not that

a nice t-shirt isn't valuable in its own right). Timing is everything,

and if I were a proponent, I'd wonder whether now is the time to try to

resurrect the discussion, or whether it would just be spinning the

tires and burning fuel--using up energy and enthusiasm on something

that is stymied by economic conditions anyway.

 

Personally, I think the only way this gets any traction is for two

things to take place:

 

1. Someone steps forward with an actual plan, and some evidence that

it's more than a dream--like land, financing, and a business plan. Why

would an elected official want to risk alienating a few hundred

residents over a concept that has little chance of ever getting off the

ground?

 

2. The relevant public officials (planning commission, County board)

become convinced that the economic potential is so great that the NIMBY

phenomenon can be discounted.

 

I will not be a proponent, but neither will I be an opponent. I don't

have much of a dog in this fight. I suspect that any proposed location

is almost certainly going to be out of my jurisdiction, so any noise

complaints are likely to be someone else's problem. You have my

opinion, it hasn't changed, and I've both spoken to media and blogged

about it before. I will continue to answer questions posed by elected

officials and by reporters openly and honestly. You can expect me to

say roughly the same thing contained in this email.

 

You might as well post this on the forum, it wouldn't bother me. Sign

me up for a shirt.

 

Good luck.

 

Tom Casady

The shirt idea is something we've tossed around and will probably be doing soon.

 

http://s87301718.onlinehome.us/images/inprogress.jpg < rough sketch of the design.

 

Right now we are making an even stronger push than last year. This time we have a much better plan in place and its slowly coming together. I'm really excited, I think this time we might have a legitimate chance at getting a track :banana::banana:

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