gizmofish Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) Hey Pitsters! While I confess I've not been around the forums much of late, I find myself in need of your expertise. My computer has been getting wonkey for the last week or so. I started as random reboots that I thought I have fixed. (svchost problem I think) and now its locking up. It all started ofter a trial run of O&O defrag ran out and I disabled the auto start until I had the cash to buy. That's about the time it started rebooting. I removed the program and that's about when it started locking up. I've tried updating drivers, defragging, even gone so far as trying a repair of my windows install. I've swapped out memory chips and monitored my temps (all were in the nominal range when the lockups occurred). I thought it might have been my vid card but I swapped it out for an old PCI card I had lying around with no joy. Now for the kicker: I can boot into safe mode and it will run all day long. And to pour salt into the wound: My windows is installed on a RAID 0 I can't run a pit test but I have a month old pit test FWIW pit test Any thoughts anyone? Neil Edited February 14, 2009 by gizmofish Link to post Share on other sites
law9933 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) Running programs conflicting, a driver problem, or malware. D/L, update, & run free MalwareBytes. http://www.download.com/Malwarebytes-Anti-...4-10804572.html Edited February 1, 2009 by law9933 Link to post Share on other sites
gizmofish Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 thanks for the reply law. I've already run Malwarebytes, AAW_AE, Spybot, etc. but I'll run it again just in case. I appreciate the comment. Neil Link to post Share on other sites
mme Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 can you go to safemode with networking download the program again but this time try using this program to remove it Windows Installer CleanUp Utility http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301 Link to post Share on other sites
gizmofish Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 mme; Thanks for the reply Yea, I can do SM W/NW all day long. I'm currently running MWB after an update right now. What is it You think I need that cleaner to remove? o&o defrag? Neil Link to post Share on other sites
mme Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Windows Installer CleanUp Utility does a good job at removing programs have you consider the uninstall you did may have left some bits and pieces behind causing your computer to lock up it is however your choice to use Good Luck EDWARD Link to post Share on other sites
gizmofish Posted February 2, 2009 Author Share Posted February 2, 2009 I DLd it mme but I can't run it in safe mode and normal SU locks up so I can't run it there. I'm stumped! I mean, I can boot up fully but even if I don't touch anything or run anything it will lock up and required a restart. I'm starting to thing I may have to do a clean install to cure this thing. I don't think its a HW problem? Neil Link to post Share on other sites
mme Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 open device manager Start/Run/devmgmt.msc /click ok click on view tab show hidden devices look for gray triangle box look for that program software if you see it try too uninstall or remove driver software you can also open regedit from run command HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software look for o&o software and delete it open my computer c:drive>>program files>>look for o&o folder delete it Link to post Share on other sites
gizmofish Posted February 2, 2009 Author Share Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) I don't see o&o in there. I think it got uninstalled. I just del all o&o refs in reg. will see Right now i'm DLing sp3. Kind of a last ditch effort Neil BTW: In DM I see a "srescan" with an (!) on it. Know what that might be? Edited February 2, 2009 by gizmofish Link to post Share on other sites
mme Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 BTW: In DM I see a "srescan" with an (!) on it. Know what that might be? http://securitytracker.com/alerts/2007/Apr/1017948.html http://secunia.com/advisories/24986/ http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=+sre...rc=IE-SearchBox you decide Link to post Share on other sites
gizmofish Posted February 2, 2009 Author Share Posted February 2, 2009 Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
gizmofish Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 Thanks, mme, for your suggestions. As it appears no one else has any suggestions. I'll try, yet another, search of the archives but I guess I'm destined for a clean install. Neil Link to post Share on other sites
mme Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 have you tried doing a chkdsk /r Start/Run/chkdsk /rclick ok type in [b[Y[/b] press enter chkdsk cannot run just restart your computer allow it to run your computer will restart after its finished takes a couple of hours Link to post Share on other sites
gizmofish Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 I Have, mme; but with all I've done over the last several days once more can't hurt. It's running now. I thought i had it whipped last night. I installed the stand-alone sp3 up grade and it ran for over two hours. when I set MSCONFIG back to normal startup and rebooted it started locking up again. Neil Link to post Share on other sites
mme Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 (edited) Go back to msconfig under startup tab disable everything except your antivirus program restart in normal Edited February 4, 2009 by mme Link to post Share on other sites
mme Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Check this site out... http://www.andreasroom.com/blog/archive/20.../18/defrag.aspx Link to post Share on other sites
gizmofish Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 Yea, first thing I tried was to go back to what had worked before but no joy. Right now i seem to be in a chkdsk loop. it completes, boots to windows, locks up, I press reset and chkdsk started again. I think I need to start planning for a clean install. I have a 600 GB RAID 0 with a 40GB partition for windows only. all my files and docs are on the D; partition. I've already backed up my Outlook PST files. I just don't cherish the thought of reloading all of my softwares. In the long run it may be for effective use of my time as this struggle is on day four! Neil Link to post Share on other sites
mme Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Open a command prompt... Start | Run | Type: cmd | Click OK | Type or paste the following line: chkntfs /d Hit the Enter key. Chkntfs displays or modifies the checking of disk at boot time. Link to post Share on other sites
gizmofish Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 (edited) I managed to break the loop on the next restart by not inputting my PW and just restarting. I reread your earlier post about deselecting my start up programs and am giving that a try. I had been concentrating on services. (I got that into my head from the forum archive posts I found). So far I've got 20 minutes good. I'll start adding back programs one at a time and see what lock it up. I think I'll run that windows installer fixer first. Neil edit: Didn't get there. Locked up after 35 min. I installed and opened the installer fixer. Windows update popped up and lock! Edited February 4, 2009 by gizmofish Link to post Share on other sites
mme Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 (edited) disable windows update in the control panel...automatic updates click on automatic updates and put radiobotton/green dot on disable/turn off updates click apply and ok to close Edited February 4, 2009 by mme Link to post Share on other sites
gizmofish Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 mme; Thanks for all your help but I'm prepping for a clean install. This ordeal has shown me that my registry is full of junk as is my programs folder. It's been two years since I installed this and its time. I think I'll be better off in the long run. Neil Link to post Share on other sites
mme Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Locking computer is no fun being in safemode with networking can get you more infected your protection is much more less Good Luck Edward Link to post Share on other sites
gizmofish Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 Hey mme; I haven't pulled the trigger yet. I've been collecting the scattered install discs and moving files and what not. This is actually the first post in this thread from my PC (as opposed to my lappy I've been using). I've been doing the add one more startup prog in MSCONFIG and try it out for awhile...repeat. But, there are so many buggy problems that I think a clean install is the best option. I did some checking and have concluded that this install has been rumming since may '06. Just shy of three years. Not bad in the grand scheme of things eh? So, thanx again for your help and I'll see you around the pit from time to time. Neil Link to post Share on other sites
mme Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Nothing worst than a corrupt registry it can even affect a install save what you can back up important things Link to post Share on other sites
mme Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 (edited) can you go to safemode with networking download the program again but this time try using this program to remove it Windows Installer CleanUp Utility http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301 lets go back to a previous post of mine Download And reinstall the program Then run the cleaner/uninstaller once it opens highlight the program choose remove Edited February 5, 2009 by mme Link to post Share on other sites
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