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So, ATI video card on Linux not good huh?

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Now I admit this is only my 2nd ATI card ever, but I paid $30 at the ATI website for this remanufactured Radeon 9200 128MB and just installed FC6. I have done nothing at all yet, no updates. This is my first boot to the kde desktop. Not only did FC6 detect my monitor, it also installed the opensource version of the ATI 3D driver. Pretty good for a $30 card I should say. Later, I'll try the ATI proprietary driver and see if it does any better. This is @ 1280x1024 24 bit color btw.

 

glxgears

[[email protected] ~]$ glxgears
libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
8352 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1670.368 FPS
8369 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1673.717 FPS
8369 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1673.764 FPS
8369 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1673.671 FPS
8369 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1673.749 FPS
8369 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1673.705 FPS
8362 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1672.395 FPS
[[email protected] ~]#

glxinfo

name of display: :0.0
libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
Uhh, anyone know what this means? :blink:

libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b

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Try 3 years. It's 8x AGP released in 2003.

 

For you 0x04b message, create a file named drirc in the /etc with the following content:

 

<driconf>
<device screen="0" driver="r200">
<application name="all">
<option name="allow_large_textures" value="2" />
</application>
</device>
</driconf>

As for ATI card, I have 7 computers all equipped with different Radeon card, 2 laptops equipped with ATI Firegl cards and I never had a problem installing any of them on any linux distros. A lot of people having problems, start by screwing-up their system and wonder why we can't help them later properly installing their drivers.

 

The only computer I have which has an Nvidia Quadro card is a Mac Pro, dual booting os/x and Fedora Core 6.

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I tried your suggestion glusier and it still get "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b". I will look into this more later and give more details if needed. I have no problems yet functionally that I know of.

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[email protected]:~$ glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark

27868 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5573.600 FPS

28802 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5760.378 FPS

28898 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5779.466 FPS

28570 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5713.922 FPS

44868 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8973.572 FPS

45351 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9070.048 FPS

45353 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9070.404 FPS

45358 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9071.460 FPS

33383 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6676.532 FPS

34100 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6819.917 FPS

45274 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9054.613 FPS

45302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9060.295 FPS

45275 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9054.907 FPS

44199 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8839.790 FPS

X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).

[email protected]:~$

 

Just showing off. I love this "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"

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[email protected]:~$ glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark

27868 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5573.600 FPS

28802 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5760.378 FPS

28898 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5779.466 FPS

28570 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5713.922 FPS

44868 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8973.572 FPS

45351 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9070.048 FPS

45353 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9070.404 FPS

45358 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9071.460 FPS

33383 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6676.532 FPS

34100 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6819.917 FPS

45274 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9054.613 FPS

45302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9060.295 FPS

45275 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9054.907 FPS

44199 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8839.790 FPS

X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).

[email protected]:~$

 

Just showing off. I love this "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"

 

Hmmm, was wondering why I could never get glxgears to show fps...

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We don't say it doesnt work. We say it doesn't work well in 3D applications. I had a 9800pro and it got the job done, but the fx5600 (a considerably slower card) i'm using now spanks it in linux.

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John ATI cards work OK, but they are slow compared to Nvidia cards, in fact the 9200 was a pretty decent card, and if it had proper drivers with good support then it should spank my laptops onboard Intel graphics chipset.

 

Not too shaby for integrated laptop Intel graphics :rolleyes:

 

[email protected]:~> glxgears

31841 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6368.108 FPS

32599 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6519.656 FPS

32554 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6510.736 FPS

32114 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6422.777 FPS

32020 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6403.804 FPS

32337 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6467.291 FPS

 

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Friend of mine (there's a thread about him + ATI + Linux) has a 9200. Believe me it's more trouble than it's worth. If you could get 3d acceleration + dual screens + XGL working in suse 10.1 John, you'd be my hero.

 

Might just be because I'm more experienced with the NVIDIA drivers, but it seems like it would be a whole lot easier doing the above with those than with ATI...

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Friend of mine (there's a thread about him + ATI + Linux) has a 9200. Believe me it's more trouble than it's worth. If you could get 3d acceleration + dual screens + XGL working in suse 10.1 John, you'd be my hero.

 

Might just be because I'm more experienced with the NVIDIA drivers, but it seems like it would be a whole lot easier doing the above with those than with ATI...

 

You can't do xgl with the radeon open source driver, but you can do aiglx, which no nvidia open source driver can do. If you want to do xgl with the 9200, you have to install the fglrx drivers, which is not hard to do with basic knowledge and before the system has been screwed-up with a multitude of reinstallation of different graphic drivers.

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John ATI cards work OK, but they are slow compared to Nvidia cards, in fact the 9200 was a pretty decent card, and if it had proper drivers with good support then it should spank my laptops onboard Intel graphics chipset.

 

Not too shaby for integrated laptop Intel graphics :rolleyes:

 

I have a bit less than half your score in glxgears with a 9600Pro. What game do you want to benchmark? I will benchmark with the Open source and closed source drivers if you want to? You'll see that your Intel card is only good at glxgears, 3d Opengl games it's worth close to nothing.

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Glussier, I didn't mention the open source drivers? I'm well aware the NVIDIA one doesn't do 3d, and of the limitations of the RADEON driver. I've gotten the proprietary driver installed, and dual screen is working, but 3d apps freeze, and I'm not even going to start on XGL until that's fixed.

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You guys are wayyyy ahead of me on all this. I'm not a gammer. I use 1 game for testing purposes only, gl-117. I only use it to confirm 3d accel. Ok, I played it a little but got nowhere. :lol: It complains if 3D is not available when 1st run.

 

All I know is this $30 ATI card beats my $30 nvidia MX 4000 by over 300% in glxgears and passes the gl-117 test.

 

And what did I do to setup 3D? Nothing, absolutely nothing! FC6 too care of that.

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I have a bit less than half your score in glxgears with a 9600Pro. What game do you want to benchmark? I will benchmark with the Open source and closed source drivers if you want to? You'll see that your Intel card is only good at glxgears, 3d Opengl games it's worth close to nothing.

 

I get over 100FPS in quake 3 with it.

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glxgears is not a benchmark.... I get fewer FPS in it on my 6600 gt than you do on your 9200 in gears, but I can run Quake IV on medium at full speed, somehow I doubt a 9200 can do that?

 

Pretty much any modern card can do over 100 fps in Quake III Duanestar. :-)

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Pretty much any modern card can do over 100 fps in Quake III Duanestar. :-)

 

Not an onboard intel laptop video. :mrsgreen:

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Not an onboard intel laptop video. :mrsgreen:

 

I said modern, and you have to be more specific than "onboard intel video".

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i would like to know wich video card hits over 100, is it the intel chipset?

 

Yes my new laptop with Intel video hits well over 100FPS sometimes reaching 200FPS in quake 3

Edited by Bruce

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OK, what resolution?

 

1024x768

 

The laptop only does 1280x800 so I can't run it higher then that.

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Yes my new laptop with Intel video hits well over 100FPS sometimes reaching 200FPS in quake 3

 

That I would like to see :shifty:

 

EDIT: Maybe I need to do a timedemo under Linux cause on Windows I don't see that happening.

Edited by KRAM

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