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I am 19 years old and use online applications extensively, just as Rob pointed out in his post. For me, it just makes sense being able to access anything, anytime from anywhere. At my university, sometimes I bring my laptop to school, but mostly I don't. Why bother carrying all your files around with you (or even on a USB Flashdisk for that matter) when you can easily store them online for free and access them from anywhere?


The point of Saas was to reduce costs for consumers. It has done that, and it will continue to do so due to the price competition between the powers that be. Even if they charge a fee, it will be a small one and the price will be justified by the convenience.


Regarding online safety, I honestly feel perfectly safe (maybe that can be attributed to being young). I use online banking frequently, send and receive money online, etc etc. There are security measures in place to prevent things from going wrong, and there are personal protection measures to prevent personal losses. If somebody steals from my BofA account via Online Banking, I am not liable for it and they'll put the funds back into my account while investigating. And how convenient is it to be anywhere in the world and be able to access your banking info instead of waiting for that monthly statement to come in the mail?

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Well I got another letter from a Senator from Ks.


Dear Mr. xxxxxxxxx:


Thank you for writing me regarding the issue of net neutrality. I appreciate your taking the time to write.


The past century saw great changes in technology, bringing with it new or improved means of communications. These technological changes create an ever-shrinking world. However, they have also created new challenges in oversight. Congress has repeatedly updated telecommunications laws as new trends emerge. The most recent reorganization of telecommunications regulations came with the 1996 Telecommunications Act. Since 1996, we have experienced additional changes and challenges in the telecommunications industry. Congress recognizes these changes and has begun debating how to best alter current law to further promote competition, spur investment in infrastructure and stimulate technological advances.


I understand your concerns about net neutrality. This is an important topic of debate as Congress continues to consider numerous proposals to update our telecommunications laws. The Senate Commerce Committee is currently debating S. 2686, the Communications, Consumer's Choice, and Broadband Deployment Act introduced by Senator Ted Stevens (R-AK). This legislation was introduced earlier this year and would make it easier for phone companies to compete with cable companies in the video market. Included in the bill is a provision that would direct the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to conduct an annual study on the issue of net neutrality, and if it finds problems, to make recommendations to Congress about what authority they need to address the issue. S. 2686 awaits further action by the Senate Commerce Committee.


As the debate surrounding renewal of the telecommunications laws continues, I will be sure to keep your comments in mind. I appreciate your taking the time to share your thoughts with me. I look forward to your continued advice and counsel.


With every best wish,






I see he hasn't really said how he plans to vote either..... :(


I did send off a "mass mailing" available from the Save the Internet site and got a return:


The following message to <[email protected]> was undeliverable.

The reason for the problem:

5.4.7 - Delivery expired (message too old) 554-'Transaction Failed Listed in deny list.'




Final-Recipient: rfc822;[email protected]

Action: failed

Status: 5.0.0 (permanent failure)

Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 5.4.7 - Delivery expired (message too old) 554-'Transaction Failed Listed in deny list.' (delivery attempts: 0)

Reporting-MTA: dns; iron1.getactive.com


Looks like the CEO of Time Warner cable has had plenty of emails that he didn't like...... :lol:

Maybe he should consider the source..... :angry:

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Back in May 2006 Rob posted a Pit Blog titled "My Outlook for Outlook" in which he is attempting to rid himself of "Billy Gates". I have searched and searched to no avail, in order to find the correct string to reply to and can't find it. Therefore, since his G-Boomer blog mentioned using Thunderbird and not giving up on Office for Google apps and I am not authorized to start a new topic, I took license to ask a simple question regarding "ridding oneself of Billy Gates stuff!?


My basic question is that if I rid myself of Outlook, where can I put my Notes? I assume that the Contacts are covered OK in Thunderbird?


Since I am a G-Boomer's Grandfather and a Baby Boomer's father, going back to the days of Commodore 64, I have enough knowledge to be dangerous! See, I don't even have a fancy logo, except those of my corps of course. However, what I do know is that I have become a member of Rob's silent team rid myself of Microsoft where possible.


If I'm not in the right place, throw my butt out of here... I just have no further time to find the right place...

I have a life. :surrender: Thank you!

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Hi SeaBoyd,


I like the contacts in ThunderBird quite a bit. They imported fine. I never used Outlook for notes. To be honest, I use NotePad for notes. When I am talking on the phone, I automatically bring up notepad, and then jot down my notes after that. Then I save all of my notes in the same directory. Pretty simple, but effective.

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I thought Rob had many interesting thoughts. I have a feeling he forgets one very important factor, though: The G-Boomers are very much involved in computer games, which just grow and grow. My son is involved in the very popular online game Warhammer, I think it is called, and even that needed something like 3 GB space on the harddisk.


Many of them probably will also be interested in videos, which also gobbles up a lot of harddisk space. So that the G-Boomers would not be interested in how much space they have on the PC's harddisk, is something I would doubt very much. So I see that they definitely will be interested in PCs with faster CPUs and larger harddisks as time goes on.



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This vision of the future is nearly free everything all controlled by some corporate operation!


I am a really old guy (born 1945). I started on mainframes in the 1960's and owned a bunch of Tandy Model II's and 100's in my consulting business in the pre-IBM era. So what? I know just enough about computers and people to be worried.


My fears are not computer power oriented, but fear of the human lust for power over others. Hackers and geeks are not a problem.


The rule: "If it is on someone else's computer it isn't yours." That is the logical extension of your email on your employer's computer belonging to your employer. So folks, if your data is stored on Google's computers, it is Google's data. If you are ok with that, you don't understand the risks.

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Thanks for this G-Boomer piece. It brings to mind an article I can’t find that addressed how the global adoption of Microsoft software defines how we work and thereby may constrict how we think.


What comes to my mind are questions on how the

literacy rate,


drop-out rate,


and Digital Divide,


will affect a growing socio-economic techno-savvy gap?


Literacy Rate

“The traditional definition of literacy is the ability to use language, i.e. to read, write, listen and speak. In modern contexts, the word means reading and writing in a level adequate for written communication and generally a level that enables one to successfully function at certain levels of a society if that society is one in which literacy plays a role in providing access to power.”


Drop-out Rate

“The U.S. Department of Education puts the official drop-out rate at just below 10 percent, or one out of every 10 students. But research conducted by the Manhattan Institute found that the number could be as high as one in three.”


Digital Divide

“With regard to the Internet, ease of access is a fundamental aspect, but it is not the sole factor. Effective access also depends on ability to use ICT (Information and Communications Technologies) effectively, and on the quality of digital content that is available and can be provided. The quality of connection, auxiliary services and other factors that affect effective use are also important (Davison and Cotten, 2003). Access can be through a range of devices (MSN TV, Webphone, PDA, mobile phone), and each provides a different level of support. Once an appropriate level of access is achieved, the individual then requires an education that includes literacy and technological skills to make effective use of it. From this point on, participation becomes possible because of the wealth of usable information that becomes available coupled with the equally important capacity to provide information to others.”

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I agree with you that there was always be a need for faster PC's and gamers drive a chunk of that. That said, Gamers are just a small chunk of the overall PC market. The mass of the market is what the G Boomers will dictate.




I could not agree with your post more! But on the other hand, Google has gone to enormous lengths to get the new generation to trust them, and trust them they do. I am still storing and backing up all my files. Just like you do! It is the new generation's behavior not mine.

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I will continue to keep my data stored locally on my own computer. ;)


Smaller companies should back up their data if they want to avoid being held to ransom by hackers, a security company has warned.


Hackers are using sophisticated ransomware, which is malicious code, to hijack a company's user files, encrypt them and then demand payment in exchange for the decryption key, Kaspersky Labs said on Monday. The security specialist said that the encryption algorithms used by cybercriminals are becoming increasingly complicated, foxing antivirus companies.


"There's a potential situation where antivirus companies won't be able to decrypt the files," said David Emm, senior technology consultant at Kaspersky U.K. "Within a corporation, the IT department normally backs up files. The danger is where attacks are launched at smaller businesses (without IT departments) and individuals."


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wow that was a lot to read so i could respond accurately.


I myself am considered a G-Boomer. I'm 18 years old, a college student, and obsessed with my technology. Almost all my friends including myself feel naked without a cell phone. Without our connection to our friends and the world it seems like we are disconnected without that piece of hardware. Now when speaking of computers I had not really heard of SaaS until reading this thread. I know understand it involves saving all the data on basically a centralized internet connected hard drive.


Now when looking at the way I see technology improving and changing as I move toward the business world I could see SaaS coming up much more often. I dont see how many people will begin to pay for a service like that. I would love to have access at any computer to my data but I also don't mind carrying around a 3 inch 2GB hard drive which could carry every document I have ever written and possibly will ever write.


By buying just one of these who needs to pay monthly for a service to hold your data. I can carry it myself and I can password protect it just like the Saas. But instead of relying on some company who I pay to make sure my data is safe, with my flash drive I am the sole proprietor of my data. If i lose it, it is my own fault. No one can hack my drive with the drive. While anyone can learn to hack in a few months and attempt to snag my data from a Saas company, not that they will succeed but it is still an attempt. I do know how advanced hackers are getting though. They are just as smart as the ones writing the code to prevent hackers. The people on both sides are both advanced in programming just choose to work on different sides of the field. They are equally as smart and so no data can be assured to be safe. In addition I feel many people will shun away from another company which they have to pay money for to just hold their data.


Now in a different scenario, if the internet companies added a service where one could get 2 GB of storage for a small added cost to their internet fee I feel this trend may take off extremely fast. It is as simple as when cell phone companies added text messaging, or phone companies voice mail. An added service for a small fee which in a few months one will hardly notice in their monthly bill. This might be the future of Saas, at least for the data storage.


When talking about actually renting software, I dont see how this idea would work. I could see how it could work for very specific software which a user might only need once or twice in a short amount of time. But i certainly wouldnt want to have to pay month after month for microsoft word. I would rather buy it and be done with it, simple as that.


My last response for this post will be about the literacy rate and high school dropouts and such. In an increasingly global environment where undergraduate degrees are no long as potent as years earlier, I feel there will never be a stop to the steady flow of those pursuing college degrees. With the dot com bust it is much harder for one to get rich quick off of a personal internet business. In order to properly manage a succesful online company one must be versed in all aspects of computers, that or willing to pay. Even though teens are very computer savvy, I feel the knowledge many of us have will not allow us to run an internet business without furthur training. I could not run an internet business and I know a ton about computers, the internet, and software. Without any kind of business training this path is near impossible.


hmmm as I think back I can hardly remember the last time I went into the library because i needed books to do research. Everything is now available online. Even when professors request at least one source in actual print the library is still avoidable. With software such as lexusnexus which is avabliable to all students at mine and many other universitys. We can find documents which are actually in print somewhere without stepping a foot in a library. This makes research and school work easily done while also being on instant messanger and having music playing. The library only becomes a neccessary place when one needs a quiet study environment or a central location for group meetings. The G-Boomers will have a much more vast knowledge of how to search and find information on the internet but those of us who are niave may find unreliable sources. Dangers come with both sides of the story but just because a book is in the library doesnt mean it is true same goes for information on the internet.


For the youth of today our lives revolve around being connected to friends. Whether it is instant messanger, video chatting, myspace, or our cell phones, we simply want to be connected. Being connected to ones data is a lot less important unless it is pictures, because we simply dont care. As we develop into young business men and women we will want our data on hand, resumes available, and information coming at us as quick as we can absorb it. But I dont see many taking valuable information and entrusting it into the hands of others.


I hope you enjoyed my thesis... or what could possibly be a thesis if I was a CS major, or psycology, or business, or many other majors. In fact i'll know that this post will be saved, accessed by any computer connected to the internet at any time, and guess what... it wont cost me a thing. So please dont hack or steal my data because im a young technology infused kid who might just fight back. Enjoy and i'll keep checking back on this thread often so maybe i can give you guys :geezer: some insight into how us G-boomers feel :lol:


*edit* oh yea and the next time i write it will probably be on literacy rate and how instant messanger and other things may be ruining anything our schools can teach us G-boomers about writing for the business world.

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I was born in 1959, which puts me at the tail end of a trend called the Baby Boom. I'm a Baby Boomer. I remember long hair, Jimi Hendrix, LSD, bell bottoms, and Kent State as a rebellious youth. Maturity and greed replaced our wayward spirit; and with it came junk bonds, the personal computer, compact discs, IRA's and the internet. We, Baby Boomers, have impacted, changed, and molded American society like no other generation before or after. Until now.


There is a new generation of young people that are going to rock the staid and complacent computer industry. For lack of a better name, let's call them Google Boomers, or G-Boomers for short. G-Boomers learned to use a mouse before they could write with a pencil. They setup their first G-Mail account before the age of 10.


At times, it seems like Google's long term prospects are hinged on this new generation of internet savvy kids and teens. Since the beginning of the year, Google has introduced an online word processor, spreadsheet, and calendar. All of them are free which is important since most 12 year olds don't have a lot of money. By any objective comparison, these products are simply inadequate to take on Thunderbird, Excel, and Word. I'm certainly not dropping Microsoft Office for these free feature replete products. But they should work great for a 12 year old opening an attachment in G-Mail.


Google is leading an internet centric world. There are numerous advantages to Google's new world.


1. Better Software Management. Since the software resides on a centralized server, each time you run the software, you get the latest version. In Google's case, it is a simple matter to add the missing features to their spreadsheet and word processor. And you know they will.

2. Data Reliability. You'll never lose your spreadsheets, letters, and emails due to a hard drive crash ever again. Here's a news flash. All hard drives eventually crash. Yours is no exception.

3. Data Sharing. Have you ever sent out a spreadsheet as an email attachment multiple times just because you made a few changes? Never again.

4. Universal Access. You don't need to be at your PC to look at your stuff. You can be anywhere.


G-Boomers don't spend a lot of money, yet. However, in the next 10 years, G-Boomers will graduate from college and get their first jobs, and then the G-Revolution will begin. This will be the first generation of totally internet-smart shoppers. They will search and research their purchases like never before. They will be the most informed buyers ever. And the internet search business will explode and of course, Google will be in the middle of the explosion.

Got a comment or response about this article? Join the conversation at the Pit.


The story doesn't end with Google. G-Boomers will be storing their spreadsheets, photos, documents online on centralized servers. The data will be accessable from any PC with an internet connection. It does not matter if the PC is a Mac, Gateway, Dell, or a no name Red Hat Linux box. Google is creating a whole generation of PC agnostics. First and foremost they will be operating system agnostic. It will not matter whether they are running Linux, Windows or OS 20. This will be great news because we will finally have true competition between the operating systems companies, which will dramatically drop the cost of computing.


G-Boomers will also have figured out the PC industry's best kept secret. AMD is just as reliable and fast as Intel processors. As G-Boomers become IT managers in major corporations, AMD will finally make some headway into the large and profitable corporate market. When Intel can no longer take the corporate market for granted, we will see true price competition for processors. Frankly, I can't wait to see processor prices tumbling down.


G-Boomers will see less and less value in hard drives, since all of their key information will be stored somewhere in cyberspace. Large and big honking processors will become increasingly important in the burgeoning server market, but the PCs of G-Boomers will be small, inexpensive, reliable, and quiet. Their portables will get incredible battery life. This ain't your grandfather's PC!


Have you ever heard of SaaS (software as a service)? You will. G-Boomers will change the entire software industry. They will no longer pay for software per se, but they will pay for what they want to accomplish. There is a whole nacent industry of software companies waiting for the G-Boomers to grow up. At PC Pitstop, we just said goodbye to Quickbooks, and hello to NetSuite for our financial management. NetSuite is an SaaS company.


G-Boomers all have an ipod, and in many cases, more than one. When a G-Boomer buys a CD, the first thing they do is rip it, then listen to it. Buy - Rip - Listen. They love iTunes and allofmp3.com because they feel like they are wasting time ripping CD's. G-Boomers love Apple and think that the music labels are stuck in the 20th century.


Last week, I was sitting in a product meeting with a computer company whose name coincidentally begins with the letter G. When asked how he felt the PC industry would evolve in the next 10 years, this senior product manager responded, "We see little to no change in the next 10 years." Clearly, he needs to sit down and chat with a G-Boomer.


Enough Said,



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Guess I need to move closer to the student union to get a faster connection. I get concerned with people that are waiting on others to get the job done. Faster, cheaper, lighter machines are available right now in any port city in Japan or Korea.

Yeppers, maybe I am way out there, but get me a round trip ticket to Itaewondon Korea (via Seoul), a storefront at one of the empty lots at campus corner here in Norman Oklahoma and I think I can make some money on electronics that won't be seen in the USA for 10 years. Boomer Sooner!!!

Oh, and a cargo shipping container filled with used USA jeans (Instant millionaire if I can get it to a Japan Harbor)

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