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Chop...just from reading a few of your posts..I think you slipped off the deep end... :lol:

 

And no thats not a personal attack...just an observation from a former heavy user... :) v

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thats fine :P

 

if a single beer makes me an alcy, i wonder about those persons who scarf down cases of the famous brew :lol:

 

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exactly my point, duane. if those of use that smoke maybe 4-5 times a year are drug addicts, then what do you call someone that smokes an ounce a week?

 

an addict, but if you hit it once in a wile i dont see that as a problem besides it not being legal?
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On page 17 of this thread chengrob posted quite a detailed post. I was specifically struck by this comment:

 

"2. We are creating an underground economy....the worst and most vial part of marijuana use is the underground economy. Feeding money to bandits and terrorists gun runners, etc."

 

To those of you who are happy to admit to taking illegal drugs I am interested in your thoughts about this. How do you square your practices with the possible funding of gun-running and other criminal activity? Is this something that people here are ignoring because it is uncomfortable to try to reconcile such awful facts with the habit? Certainly the thread has yet to develop a discussion in this area and I am genuinely interested in what people have to say about this. I have to say it would bother me immensely if my purchasing of anything was likely to fund illegal or even terrorist activity.

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On page 17 of this thread chengrob posted quite a detailed post. I was specifically struck by this comment:

 

"2. We are creating an underground economy....the worst and most vial part of marijuana use is the underground economy. Feeding money to bandits and terrorists gun runners, etc."

 

To those of you who are happy to admit to taking illegal drugs I am interested in your thoughts about this. How do you square your practices with the possible funding of gun-running and other criminal activity? Is this something that people here are ignoring because it is uncomfortable to try to reconcile such awful facts with the habit? Certainly the thread has yet to develop a discussion in this area and I am genuinely interested in what people have to say about this. I have to say it would bother me immensely if my purchasing of anything was likely to fund illegal or even terrorist activity.

 

 

Can't speak for anyone but me here..but I grew my own...used clones from my female plants every year I smoked it..it was a nerve wracking deal tho...glad I'm done with it... :) v

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you just told me a few posts back that:

 

its also preposterous to say you smoke it four or five times a year, i think that isnt true, you will smoke as much as possible, i dont think its something you can just turn off and say your done, it causes an escalation in urges, i dont and never known anyone to smoke a few times out of a year, infact, your average uses fires one up as soon as they wake up :laughing:

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i do believe this, if i would try it now, i wouldnt like it...

 

to stay away from a substance for an extended period of time changes the affects of the drug, meaning its stronger or more potent, may even cause the room to spin, i dont think most would find that desirable.

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the reason i quit smoking it heavily a few years back? i simply got bored with it.

 

the only thing that slowed me down was the fact that i didnt have any money.
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my father inlaw smokes the stuff non stop for about thirty years, hes not himself without it, it became a part of his daily life, i dont think he can stop for a week unless week tied him up in the basement :P

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its also preposterous to say you smoke it four or five times a year, i think that isnt true, you will smoke as much as possible, i dont think its something you can just turn off and say your done, it causes an escalation in urges, i dont and never known anyone to smoke a few times out of a year, infact, your average uses fires one up as soon as they wake up :laughing:

 

 

I only smoke about 2-3 times a year myself. SO now you can say you met someone.

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you will smoke as much as possible, i dont think its something you can just turn off and say your done, it causes an escalation in urges, i dont and never known anyone to smoke a few times out of a year, infact, your average uses fires one up as soon as they wake up :laughing:

 

ok now this is truely funny :laughing:

 

first off i smoke pot every day and the last thing i want to do is get stoned at 6:30am :rolleyes: infact i dont even think of getting high until i get home, i only smoke at home unless someone has it with them but for me i never carry it around.

 

i also do not smoke it at work not that i cant i simply do not want to smoke at work its pretty damn dumb if you ask me, i smoke at night like now after 10pm when my day is over its my relaxing part of the evening i sit here on the computer hit the bong,pipe, vaporizer hey we got choices in this house but not all at the same time that would be a waste of good herb :clap:

 

i would write more but im craving pot and almost willing to trade my computer for a hit :fear:

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On page 17 of this thread chengrob posted quite a detailed post. I was specifically struck by this comment:

 

"2. We are creating an underground economy....the worst and most vial part of marijuana use is the underground economy. Feeding money to bandits and terrorists gun runners, etc."

 

To those of you who are happy to admit to taking illegal drugs I am interested in your thoughts about this. How do you square your practices with the possible funding of gun-running and other criminal activity? Is this something that people here are ignoring because it is uncomfortable to try to reconcile such awful facts with the habit? Certainly the thread has yet to develop a discussion in this area and I am genuinely interested in what people have to say about this. I have to say it would bother me immensely if my purchasing of anything was likely to fund illegal or even terrorist activity.

 

i get mine from a 45 year old man growing it, the best stuff ive found, he is an amazing grower, wish yall could know him, high quality cannabis grown by an american is not supporting terrorism Edited by leprechanmonkie
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leprechanmonkie,

 

That is great that you score your stuff from a local. My point was on a much larger scale. Most of the illegal drugs are not being supplied by domestic producers but by an underground economy that runs through Mexico, Colombia and Bolivia. It is the drug runners and their bosses that create this underground economy, and creates the risks to American security. I did not mean to suggest that your domestic supplier was a problem nor a risk, because he is not.

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To add again to chengrob's comment above. I guess growing your own is one thing, so perhaps my question is geared more towards those who buy their stuff from dealers. So far the only response in that regard has been of the "we pay taxes to a corrupt system (i.e. the government)", implying thereby that it is Ok to pay the man and to hell with the consequences?

 

No one else apart from volt and leprachaunmonkie who do / did not pay other people have bothered to comment.

 

Thanks to those who have responded and I'm still interested in others' responses, although I realise it is off topic. Anyone else?

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Well, I realize that this doesn't help with the ones who are dealing in other addictive drugs, but as far as marijuana is concerned, just legalize it. That way the money wouldn't go to fund terrorism (unless you consider what our governments do to be terrorism). People are going to buy it and use it regardless of its legality, so why doesn't the government just make it legal and tax it like they do everything else? -kd5-

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Well, I realize that this doesn't help with the ones who are dealing in other addictive drugs, but as far as marijuana is concerned, just legalize it. That way the money wouldn't go to fund terrorism (unless you consider what our governments do to be terrorism). People are going to buy it and use it regardless of its legality, so why doesn't the government just make it legal and tax it like they do everything else? -kd5-

 

Fine, but until the government legalises it, how do you reconcile the problem of the purchaser funding illegal (possibly terrorist) activities?

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badbinary

 

I misquote you - I tend to find many misquote -so here's the spirit of what I am saying - IF your purchasing an illegal drug funds illegal and POSSIBLY terrorist activities, how do you reconcile this with your views on such ilegal and possibly terrorist activities.

 

I think that, with respect, you are evading the moral dilemma I am attmepting to ask you (and others) to address.

 

My interpretation of what you are saying is that one is wrong, therefore that mitigates any responsibility I may have towards such funding. Even if what you say about the lack of interest on the part of the authorities / governemnt is true, do you feel this abrogates your responsibility?

 

If I misinterpret you, my apologies; but you have not yet addressed the key issues for me which is how do you reconcile this?

 

And, if you interpret what I originally posted as "$you are funding or supporting terrorists2$, then you misunderstand me. Firstly, I am notaccusing anyone of supporting anything;secondly I was careful to not mention terrorism on it's own. Personally I feel concerned that illegal drug cartels MAY be involved in things like child prostitution, child porn etc. That concerns me equally...

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badbinary - ok, you reject the notion. Your perogative. I'm unsure why you have highlighted the sentence I wrote, unless it is to point out the fact that i mention terrorist activity. I repeat that I did not JUST mention terrorist activity. Take a look at your highlighting.

 

 

Anyone else have any thoughts? No moral dilemma for you guys either? Do you not agree that drug cartels might be involved in gun-running, child sexual exploitation etc?

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I don't claim to be an expert at anything. I only know about my "personal" experiences. Like kd5, I give my personal experiences far more weight then statistics, and things I have read in books.

 

Things are certainly better for me now. I stopped letting the doctors, and so called drug rehabs "medicate" me and found better ways to stay to clean. :tup::adios:

 

Edit BTW, yes I found a new set of friends, however you are dead wrong about not associating with what you call other experts. You see when the doctors failed, the counselors failed, the rehabs failed, the courts failed.............it was the other experts who got me clean.

 

 

I didn't say you claimed to be an expert. I said ou met the "Pit standards" of an expert.

 

Those "other experts" may have indeed helped you...whatever works, fine. But you yourself admit to separating yourself from them now. That is very telling.

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I haven't separated myself from addicts.

 

I very much associate with addicts on a regular basis, I just choose to be around the clean variety today. ;):clap::geezer:

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