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  1. Sorry for a slow reply, busy trying to put something together for the wife's birthday on Sunday, she will be a Bullseye in darts, so trying to do something a bit special, but with no money it's hard lol, but I am desperately trying to improve 2 pictures I have, one really old and really grainy (colour film from the 80's), the other has been distorted, unless that literally hit g-force as Concorde let rip, and that's from the actual film, not an edited\distorted attempt so it's an impossible task lol. Anyway again I can't argue that, I don't know Android anywhere near as well as you guy's, but even given a user HAS to allow something before it can happen, my bigger and main point is still valid, tell someone they can't do it, someone will at some point go out and do it to prove them wrong (just like Caribe), it's only a matter of time, and users need to start realising just how vulnerable their phones can be if they get caught by something like the headline in here, and by having at least some protection is better than none, even if it's only users who will allow anything on their phone, but of course awareness is their greatest tool along with safe practices as you have laid out already, which is the point I was trying to make with this warning, stay safe, and be aware, as many underestimate the power of todays mobiles.
  2. No I appreciate all that, and agree for the most part, and have stated many times that the likelihood of a person getting hit by such a thing currently is so small you would never have a problem, currently anyway, and I completely agree that just because a piece of protection says all is well kind of thing, it can give users an overestimated feeling of protection, as always no single piece of software can catch everything, and just because a users protection says they are safe, it doesn't guarantee that is true, and like you say is a dangerous thing as many users will lower their guard, but at least it gives a user a fighting chance of being safe compared to having nothing. It's a sad fact that people far to often need protecting from themselves, and like you say it's not to belittle them, hence creating this so people become more aware, and hopefully stay safer, but I am the opposite to you, ALL my features are turned on, because I use them all the time, but like you I have never had an infection or anything, but my reference to Caribe is to make a point, makers, creators, bigwigs or whatever name you want to give to those who develop these devices were so adamant they were safe from infection, a group told them they were wrong, and when they were scoffed at, they went out and proved it can be done to make the point, the only thing that's held this back from happening, is a big enough, market and profitability, and now the Android market is so big, it's only a matter of time before more start to target it, and who knows what will come from that. And yes the media always love a good scare story, it sells papers, but IMO that's not a bad thing in this instance, anything that makes a person take notice of a serious thing so they start to ask are they safe has to be good, as to the software makers, that's a double edge sword, those that you have to pay for are only concerned about sales, they are there to make profit, so yes they make money from exaggerating risks, but on the other hand they are simply stating the worst case scenario, but with so many free options available, it certainly wont hurt to start looking around, and taking a lot more notice, and another factor that's just come to mind, a lot of free App's use advertising to fund themselves, as such you gave that App permission's for it to do numerous things, what happens if a user gets taken to a web page that is infected ? Again I don't know enough to say for sure, but as it's one method used to hit Windows users, it's not unreasonable to see it happening to other platforms as well.
  3. I have always admitted I am new to the Android platform, I've been using it for maybe 18 months now, and to start with I did find it very hard at times to do simple things, but I have a much better grip on it now, but I am in no way into any phone the way I used to be on mobile forums, I've moved onto PC's now, but I still try to keep up with changes. But I fear you are missing the main point of this thread, this is about the real POSSIBILITY of this, as both of you have said, it takes action on the users part (usually, but being out of touch these day's I couldn't swear to it, but I have seen such things on other phones with no user action needed), and because we won't make such an error (I hope lol), it doesn't mean others won't, this is to simply warn people who are less aware to start taking notice of what happens on their devices. I can think of 3 area's that are possible weak spots for an infection to get access, but I lack the in depth knowledge these day's to know just what is required today for this to happen, but I also remind people of the Caribe infection, all the big wig's said it would NEVER happen, so a group of guy's got together and proved they were wrong, I have clearly said the likelihood of this for most people currently is minimal, although 20,000+ people would tend to disagree ("stupidity" aside as you call it), it is only a matter of time before someone see's the Android market as being as profitable to them as with Windows users. But the 3 area's that come instantly to mind are Wi-Fi, Bluetooth (both obvious ways), and NFC, a person with very basic kit can walk around and just by passing close to someone, the can get all sorts of peoples Bank Card's with this tech in them, but I don't know how a phone "may" be affected by that approach currently, and again even if it isn't happening now, just like Caribe, it only takes someone to see it as a viable target to start the ball rolling, Wi-Fi speaks for itself really. But Bluetooth may be different, logically if your device is paired to your PC, and mates devices, with no authorisation required to send a file to them, logically you can get infected, but even if as you say a user would still have to allow something first, if it's come from a "mate" or a trusted PC, they wouldn't know it was something to not touch, and would unknowingly become infected, and again if it can't infect you without the user allowing something today, what about tomorrow when the next "Caribe" style breakthrough happens ? I created this to raise awareness, and make people realise that these things are out there, and getting worse, no point closing the stable door after the horse has bolted, and just because we know about the dangers of this, others won't be.
  4. Very true, up to a point, don't get me wrong, common sense is by far the greatest defence we have, but "some" infections can be picked up by simply visiting a web page, or walking past another infected device, I don't deny it may be uncommon for it to happen, as opposed to those who allow something that causes the damage to happen because they don't know any better, but let's face it, very few are probably as aware about such things as you are, as you run a very tight ship so to speak, but it would be like Russian roulette for an extremely vast number of people to use no protection, and although it is no guarantee you won't get infected, it's a whole lot better than doing nothing for most IMHO.
  5. Yep, they are pretty much a small laptop these days, the "smart-phones" at least, but it doesn't mean other phones are immune, and although the likelihood of the vast major it getting hit (illegal stuff aside) is still minimal at this time, it should be taken as a wake up call for people to start extending their PC knowledge and tools (ALL the big names we know and suggest have a free option for mobiles, among some we don't know) onto their mobiles etc., TBH I had forgotten about that thread, Xmas was just so manic here trying to finish decorating the front room enough to bring the settee back in at least, then the deccy's and the big day, then pretty much die for a week to recover a bit of energy, I just can't manage this any more lol. But the bottom line is if you have ANY Android device (Tablets etc. included), get it protected (where possible anyway), and treat EVERYTHING that comes up as you would on a PC, basically make sure you know it's genuine, and if it says you need this that or the other to do something, Google it, check for warnings, then go direct to the makers to get it, and if your battery life suddenly starts to decrease more than it should, check it out as it may be an infection using bluetooth or similar to infect other devices by sending itself to anything that will allow it to, and if you see a file request come up on your mobile, if you haven't just done something to cause that to happen, do NOT allow it to do anything, because these things are out there, and will only get worse, so take care.
  6. Just don't turn green on us, Pllleeeeaaasssee. (I have heard she does an incredible hulk impersonation) lol.
  7. Just raising awareness of the sensible step of protecting your mobile as well as your PC, I've warned about such things now for MANY years, and although this is still down to illegal users stupidity (for illegal downloading) it does show how serious this is becoming for Android users, as in the extent of what can, and IS now happening, and it's the most serious\damaging issue I have seen yet to warn people about not thinking Android = safe\untouchable any more, previous threats I have known about only showed the reality\ability of this being only a matter of time before serious threats came out, there may be other cases I have not seen before, but this one is the 1st I have seen to physically cost people money from mobile banking, so get protected before it's too late is my advice. Fake Android The Interview App actually banking Trojan Here are a couple of places giving reviews on various makers, but do bare in mind this is an ever changing market, so reviews are only as good as the source who reviewed them, and the day they were written, I use Kaspersky (full version), as it comes free from my bank, but they have a free version as well, along with all the big names we know for PC's, as well as some we don't, the Pro's may have a deeper insight as to what the best option(s) are, but this at least gives you a starting point should you decide to get protected, assuming your not already, so stay safe people. Best Android antivirus 2015 UK: 6 best cheap and free Android security App's 15 best antivirus Android App's and anti-malware Android App's
  8. Another possible cause is junk file cleaners, they remove the cookies that remember you, so each time you run such a cleaner, your probably removing the ability to stay logged in, the good news is that if you use CCleaner, you can save the cookies you need to stay logged in, even from other junk file cleaners (there may be exceptions though as there are many out there), what I do is go to the site(s), run the cleaner to remove a lot of what is already there, which makes finding what you need much easier, close the program, then log in, once logged in before clicking any other links in the browser. Next launch CCleaner again, BUT, do NOT run it, instead click on the following:- Options (on the left side menu), then Cookies; Then you will see 2 "windows" so to speak, the left hand side shows ALL the cookies you have in the system (hence clearing out the massive bulk that will already be there so they are easy to find), what you need to do is select the ones that relate to the site you want to stay logged into (sometimes there are more than 1), highlight them by clicking on them, then click on the Arrows icon to move them to the right hand window, if you move one over you no longer want, then reverse this process, then repeat as needed, some sites I have found you need to save multiple cookies, but 99% of the time they are obvious as to the site they relate to, but there are often (depending on the sites) several entries, most of which are not part of the site, do not move those ones over. After you have moved them over to the right window, you can clean the junk out as normal, and they will be retained\protected so you shouldn't have this problem anymore, assuming it's your settings, such as having your browser clear it's history when closed, or junk file cleaners that are removing this detail, hope this helps.
  9. I could be wrong, but it looks like we're supposed to believe that the kick knocked the glasses off the runner, and were "caught" by the kicker directly into the wearable position, but such a short snippet is hard to see the whole picture so to speak, the runner appears to smack something out of the other guys hand (appeared to be a drink maybe ?), the kicker does his civic duty, then the other guy starts to come over to get some payback (that's what most would do), but it cuts so quick you never get to know. Love the dog one, truly mans best friend lol. *edit Just saw the above, didn't see it listed when replying with the quote until now, looks like he just threw some kind of green net over him, sweet justice though, pranks are what you do with mates who know you, not total strangers.
  10. Some of what I have listed runs in real time (not taking into account those programs that have been paid for to get real time cover component of it), and of those some can be turned off so it doesn't, they are:- Secunia PSI = Real Time, it can be turned off, but it would no longer keep your programs up to date, so if you would stop this one then there is no point installing it. WinPatrol, = Real Time, very lightweight and most know it so enough said. MCShield = Real Time, scans removable media as they are connected, so shields from infected media. Iobit Smart Defrag = Real Time, defrags on the fly, but also scans every 7 days when the system boots to maximise performance, this can be turned off if wanted to run on demand. Unchecky = Real Time, I can't recommend this one enough, extremely lightweight, and stops well over 90% + of sneaky installs I would say, that usually brings users to you (after some point anyway), it removes the sneaky tick boxes that are often bundled with other install files, so using this dramatically reduces users from installing the crud because they don't notice the tick boxes, and when it can't do that it warns the user they are about to install something they may not want, at which point it raises 2 other forms of issue, RTFM, and ID10T errors. None of these will cause a problem for users, as long as they only use the base role of the software, e.g. run CCleaner as a cleaner ONLY, instruct them not to touch the other bits, especially the registry tool, otherwise they would be fine, I set these and leave them running, because they will do the tasks that I know the users won't do, which keeps them running smoother, safer, and more importantly reduces how often they come back to me with problems lol, but for those who make money from people who keep messing up their systems, you may not want to use these tools lol.
  11. There is a lot of truth in that, which is why I love the above so much, they don't have to do anything, it doesn't rely on the user for the vast majority of things, the only time they know it's there is when it can't access thee check boxes due to the way the install is built, it will jump up and tell them it contains potential garbage, that's the only time they will know it's there, same with Wise Cleaner, and Iobit Smart Defrag (as long as it's YOU that installs it, as it is sneaky trying to get you to install garbage, you have to Decline the 1st screen, before it installs the actual program), but both can be set to run without user intervention, and "should" make their visits less often, but as you say, some people just won't learn, but these should help.
  12. Oops, I forgot what is probably the most important tool, you install it, then that's it, the user has next to nothing to do with it, what does it do ? It automatically marks the ticks from boxes set to include the garbage appropriately, so that they do not add the junk, there are times where an install file where this software can't act on, at which point it jumps up and asks the user if they are sure, adding it may contain unwanted stuff as well, it should be in every tech's toolbox, it will cut down your work instantly, What is this tool ? Unchecky, it is very lightweight, so even low powered systems shouldn't have trouble running it, the program launches with Windows then runs in the background, not that you would know it, the amount of times I've had to get rid of garbage has dropped by 99.9% since I started using it, I can't recommend this tool highly enough, there is a demo video lower down the page, and you can also email in other garbage if you find they are missing one, I hope you find it as useful as well.
  13. I do similar, but I call it Run These, it makes it more obvious that they should run them, I put CCleaner (free) in there, and used to use 2 more, but they have not been updated in many years, and I sometimes get a snide comment about using them because of this, but I am giving Wise Disk Cleaner a test drive currently, which you can even schedule cleaning so if the user forgets, it does it for them, and I think it is pretty good, it also allows you to filter what does and doesn't get touched, aside from those I put a folder called Protection in there, and add the usual tools like mbam, SpywareBlaster, SUPERAntiSpyware (free). Aside from that I put Secunia PSI on their systems, that does a great job in auto updating many programs without the user having to bother, they rarely know it's happening, but sometimes it does require the user to do some installs, but it links them directly to it when that happens, I also put WinPatrol, the latest Hosts file, WOT and MCShield on, then I drill into them what are do's and don'ts (obviously this is only mates I'm dealing with), and over the 10 years or so I've been helping them, I've got from maybe| 3 reinstalls a week on average because they get infected, to none, these days it's usually corrupted systems that I have to do, and then only 1 maybe every 4 months or so at most, so it does work if you tell them enough. Not quite the same as you do, but I aim at keeping it running as opposed to giving them a reinstall package type of thing, but then I am only deal with mates, so it's always a case of using what works in your case type of thing.
  14. LOL used a couple of those myself, but I got my father a birthday card last year (he is always scared to open my stuff for some reason ), and in it there was a note about being nice to ME, this was followed with a line saying because I am the one who will decide which care home I put you in ROFL.
  15. Been some pretty good ones in here, hope this is up to par.
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